Mind's Eye Re: Friendship

The ultimate would be to sacrifice your life for a friend/child/love/
stranger. What about the law- being an accessory to a crime. Might be
like a poker game and knowing when to hold and when to fold. Also
consider if sin/grace are applicable to conscience/behavior. What
about the courage to stand alone? Maybe one has the wrong friends.Also
consider the influence of money and sex. Also the matter of what's
acceptable in war and not in civilian life or how certain acts are
justified- abortion is okay but killing a pregnant woman is double
homicide- when did that fetus assume human status? Is loving adultery
holier than a hellish, brutal marriage? Etc, etc., etc.

On May 2, 12:42 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seemed as though my 'minds' life was dead.. but i was just doing
> this term paper on Aristotle and Derrida on friendship and a question
> came to me... .. i came across something that Cicero said i think..
> that it is the law that one should not ask a friend for an unlawful
> thing... or that wrong doing done for a friend is not excused, now the
> Greeks were a little tough on virtue.. and i quite agree with them..
> but for most us i think it would be difficult to determine whether a
> thing is moral or immoral.. in more subtle cases in mean.. how do you
> decide whether refusing to do an immoral thing for the sake of your
> friend is really out of conscience or is it cowardice in the time of
> problem.. is it a test of friendship?.... They say that one loves one
> friend like one's self then would one punish one's friend like one
> would one's self?Or is it that it is absolute and blind love that will
> make one do anything for the sake of a friend... for example if our
> friend committed a crime... this is just one example.. you guys can
> think of lots others... Also would one think of troubling a friend
> when one finds ones' self in a moral dilemma ... would one expect much
> from them and think them traitor if they don't take our sides...
> please feel free to add more thoughts to this.. and do say what you
> think..

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Mind's Eye Friendship

It seemed as though my 'minds' life was dead.. but i was just doing
this term paper on Aristotle and Derrida on friendship and a question
came to me... .. i came across something that Cicero said i think..
that it is the law that one should not ask a friend for an unlawful
thing... or that wrong doing done for a friend is not excused, now the
Greeks were a little tough on virtue.. and i quite agree with them..
but for most us i think it would be difficult to determine whether a
thing is moral or immoral.. in more subtle cases in mean.. how do you
decide whether refusing to do an immoral thing for the sake of your
friend is really out of conscience or is it cowardice in the time of
problem.. is it a test of friendship?.... They say that one loves one
friend like one's self then would one punish one's friend like one
would one's self?Or is it that it is absolute and blind love that will
make one do anything for the sake of a friend... for example if our
friend committed a crime... this is just one example.. you guys can
think of lots others... Also would one think of troubling a friend
when one finds ones' self in a moral dilemma ... would one expect much
from them and think them traitor if they don't take our sides...
please feel free to add more thoughts to this.. and do say what you
think..

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Re: Mind's Eye Re: Why me ?

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com> wrote:

"Why me?" Who do we credit or blame the good or bad things that happen to us?

Pure chance is usually the first thing we think of when we have good or bad luck. We just happened to be in the right or wrong place at the right or wrong time. But many times we should credit or blame ourselves for our own cleverness or stupidity. We can then regard our good or bad luck as rewards or punishments for our own right or wrong choices.

There are situations however when we feel that we need to look elsewhere for the way destiny leads us to fortunes and misfortunes. In these situations, the only other reasons for "why me?" are other humans who manipulate us. These are usually our family, friends, bosses, colleagues or leaders who want to help or hurt us.

When none of the fore mentioned reasons for "why me?" give a satisfactory answer, then we can look to the souls of dead people who like the living  have the desire to manipulate people they like or dislike. Failing that, we can credit or blame god and karma for the good or bad experiences we are given. And then we can be thankful that failing everything else, we will always be ensured that we learn what we need and deserve to learn.  

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:13:18 PM UTC+2, RP Singh wrote:

Why me ? Why did this happen to me ? But why not! It had to happen to someone so why not me and not because of some weird law of karma. The tragedies of life do not come by choice but are thrust upon someone whether deservedly or not.

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