Re: Mind's Eye Ukraine

I read that Odesa was the largest Soviet port, with the Eastern
almost-half of the UK being majority pro-Russia. Seems like a large
population of Russian nationalists are giving Putin the thumbs up, and
he is asking for a good opportunity. Could be grandstanding to increase
support. I didn't know much until you mentioned it but I am curious
about the circumstances of the population.

On 3/3/2014 6:19 PM, archytas wrote:
> I have no idea what goes on. I don't have any roubles. While reading
> up on some history I did read that Krushchev ceded control of the
> Crimea to Kiev in 1954, Stalin expelled the Tartars killing 45% and
> that there were genocidal starvations. I sort of knew this stuff, but
> was amazed to discover Sevastopol was the centre of massive slaving of
> Europeans to the Middle East, mostly by the Tartars - who sacked
> Moscow in 1751 taking thousands into slavery. This European slavery
> continued after the bombardment of Algiers in 1816.
>
> It looks to me as though the Russians were enticed into invading
> Crimea. This has crashed the rouble and their stockmarket - one
> wonders who was short on both positions. The only thing I'e noticed
> is the reliance of western Europe on Russian energy. Anyone any ideas?
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Re: Mind's Eye Re: secure network

Andrew, I remember replying but it must have been in a dream. o.O (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIfyebxopuM) I agree about the change idea in general, but also with other concerns like privacy, the dog of a new interface.

Molly, that letter was a little nutty, some might say fringe. Zurker was broadcast to the general public so the tone doesn't seem appropriate but I can see where he was coming from just that there must be a better strategy. I was intrigued by some of their recent news and discussions but sadly my time is in extremely short supply and apparently of little value. Too bad they lost their lead developer, I found some aspects of the few pages I read to be respectable from a performance standpoint: browsing a social network with mixed multimedia and discussions that consumes little memory is rare these days (frowns for both the big G, and Faceboot/Fakebook). I noticed a series of very unoriginal echoes around the web about it being a ponzi scheme but little in the way of how that differentiates Zurker from any other growth oriented community, nor how that in what appear to be some small aspects this should be incompatible with their philosophy or vision.

Allan, just think of all those facebook icons we see scattered across the web, the little scripted syndication modules that appear on the side of so many blogs and company sites as your information: what we read, when we read it, buying preferences, political stances, what types of porn (most images are designed to illicit a response, those accumulated responses are stored in logs across a multitude of network components and server technologies potentially forever) whether it be a news item, list of articles, funny pictures or anything else, every single click accumulates into a growing body of information that reinforces the cross referential integrity to profile who you are, how you think, what you are thinking now, and eventually even why. It makes one wonder who should we trust with this information. The business response seems to be to make the largest providers of safety and control the ultimate holders of global network security- and of course history hasn't rewarded huge sums to contracts on that scale.. Where these lines blur between coercion, soft fascism, narcissism, power and greed leads us to the dame door steps it always has. Ponzi schemes are childsplay when you can run the company store. Nuff said, they are playing with fire.

On 3/3/2014 2:18 PM, Allan H wrote:

Well Andrew there was a saying in the US in the '60 \ 70's that went " Cash, grass or associated nobody rides for free. "

Google is not for free tour are sold as their commodity. Don't kid yourself nothing is for free including the internet. The only semi solution is to conduct the group chatter via snail mail. I am laughing visualizing a mail slot full of minds-eye responses. 75€ cent per letter it would be an expensive hobby,  :-P 

(    Matrix ~ Do No Harm
  )        ~ Soul controls body
[_D ~ Allan H

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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: secure network

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 5:33:36 AM UTC+1, Ash wrote:

...... Andrew sounds in the know regarding
PGP ........

I wish I could help out but unfortunatelly the only thing I know about PGP is what the letters stand for. What I would like to hear are some arguments as to what benefits a change would give. I think these news groups have been running for such a long time that hopefully they will keep running and remain free. I do not see changing something just for the sake of change. Why try to fix something if it is not broken. 

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Mind's Eye Ukraine

I have no idea what goes on.  I don't have any roubles.  While reading up on some history I did read that Krushchev ceded control of the Crimea to Kiev in 1954, Stalin expelled the Tartars killing 45% and that there were genocidal starvations.  I sort of knew this stuff, but was amazed to discover Sevastopol was the centre of massive slaving of Europeans to the Middle East, mostly by the Tartars - who sacked Moscow in 1751 taking thousands into slavery.  This European slavery continued after the bombardment of Algiers in 1816.

It looks to me as though the Russians were enticed into invading Crimea.  This has crashed the rouble and their stockmarket - one wonders who was short on both positions.  The only thing I'e noticed is the reliance of western Europe on Russian energy.  Anyone any ideas?

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