Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Balkanization of America

Sorry about the delay in responding,, life for me is a mad house for me at the moment and probably for the next 6 to 9 months. Well Nazi (ism) is a conservative point of view.. the one inspired to by Hitler in the 1930's through WW II, which was defeated during .. now to get on the same page.

Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism originated in Pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist völkisch movement prominent in the German nationalism of the time, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's underlying "cult of violence". Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.
DJ what you are saying is not in the political views of true liberal thinking. Being liberal simple you care more for people than than Corporate political profit at the expense of the common citizens.
The propaganda of hatred you are experiencing is the result of corporate elitist view solely for the purpose of keeping the control of the commom man


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Hellow Alan. I hope you and yours are well. There are definitely radical Conservatives out there capable of terrible destruction. Timothy McVeigh comes to mind. As well as Anders Breivik. I'm afraid we will see more of this activity unfortunately. It's almost inevitable. That said, it's not Conservatives tearing down statues and breaking windows and looting stores. If these useless piles of dross have any politics at all it's all about increasing entitlements and canceling the police. Issues not generally associated with Conservatism. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd certainly be interested to read it. As far as BLM and Antifa are concerned they are radical left political groups. The one is unashamedly Marxist and the other uses it's name as a cover to promote anarchy. Antifa is right up Ted Kaczynski's alley. The deference we show these agitators is a black mark on the United States of America. I am actually embarrassed by it. And yes, I'm embarrassed by Trump's lack of leadership during this time as well. All the so-called Conservatives in Washington have no spine. Deeply disappointing. 

dj


On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 5:33:07 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
I was reading a great deal of the break-in and looting are being done by outside agitators not but the liberals or anti nazi groups. (Í am objecting to the shorting of what the group actually stands for.) What I am seeing is the people actually causing pointing at other is to divert investigators from looking in their direction..
Oddly a good investigation always looks into the parties pointing the fingers, it turned out most of the problems were caused by outsiders they turned out to be mostly  white supremacists ..
In other words the problems seem to start with extreme right conservative people..
In fewer words  ..  what federal investigators (the people actually doing the work) really avoid politics including your own..  a good investigation is about finding the facts not opinions.

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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Balkanization of America

I hope you are correct. I'm seeing city governments often with the approval of the governor letting rioters break and steal and destroy with impunity. That's why it's still going on. We have a terrible media that stokes the fires of hatred and resentment 24/7. Facist tactics are used to try to silence Conservatives. I am deeply disturbed with how things are playing out. I don't want to be the chicken little so I don't let on how worried I am to my closest family members. Like I said, it's not the hard times, it's not the saber rattling from China, it's not Covid. It is our REACTION to these things. The Dems are insane lunatics and the Republicans are ineffective cowards. I am sick to death of them all. The FBI, the CIA, the Justice Dept., the Pentagon and the State Dept. are inept and/or corrupt. Don't get me started on the IRS. I've never been more depressed in my life I have no bluster left in me. Only quite disbelief. 

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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:19 AM ashok tewari <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
The good part is that America will rebound...so I believe. China will suffer more economic and military losses than any all the relative gains it might have enjoyed through global trade and unleashing of its homegrown virus.

Europe will learn : Pussies do not have friends, only protectors and sympathisers.

Russia will remain overtly with India and covertly with Quad, though it has to give in a lot to Chinese monetary and trade benefits.

Iran has a lot to deal with domestically...

On Saturday, June 27, 2020, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You state my exact thoughts. Which makes us weirdo conspiracy theorists in the eyes of most everyone else. My brother suggested I start reading the Economist regularly but I find I can barely stand it. Europe has such a low opinion of America. Most of the articles read like Chinese propaganda if not outright agitprop. Which is what CNN and most of the regular networks has become. Pure communist agitprop. "Mostly peaceful" my left nut. We are witnessing the dissolution of America. I wish I didn't believe that. These people celebrating our demise have no idea the pain that is coming. Absolutely none. The free money will run out but the jobs will still be gone. Governments will go bankrupt. Runaway inflation. Lying politicians promising "healing" and "rebuilding" and "social justice." I've never been more nervous in my life and it has NOTHING to do with covid. I can face hardship and trouble just fine but it is soooo disheartening to realize the vast majority of the American public doesn't recognize the real monster here. Too busy tilting at racist windmills. 
> dj
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:29 PM ashok tewari <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Don, most yippie liberal leftists have a huge meme to surmount : America is Trump, and he is a liar, racist and insensitive bastard. So is America, in the mind of these juveniles.
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>> The second corruption is brought in by motivated politiking funded hugely by desperate Dems and diehard subversists like George Soros. This is organised, well oiled and propagated mayhem, misinformation and violent disruption. Any cause for any of this, put out as a justification, is a ruse planted and blown up rabble rouse useful idiots.
>>
>> China is vile and evil because it is ruled by communist dictators, a handful of them really who, among other ways, deploy 50% of its defence budget to enslave its citizens.
>>
>> It is a very concerted, well orchestrated opposition to American presidency as well as to its international power and esteem. China calculates the time is right to weaken its enemies, Russia is hung in a middle path, and the political grounds in democratic nations are marshy enough. There is a real chasm between the US and Continental Europe, and a new global formation (Quad, for instance) is still in the making. The pandemic has taken away much of their economic bases.
>>
>> It is interesting times, truly. The juveniles are upbeat. The satanic ideologues are smiling...
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>> On Monday, June 22, 2020, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I figured out what's bothering me the most. Lots of things bother me, worry me, irritate me, exasperate me, etc. but generally I don't stress out about what I can't control. This is different. What bothers me the most about what is going on is that TOO FEW SEEM TO THINK THERE'S AN ACTUAL PROBLEM. Or, to be more precise, think the problem is the opposite of what it actually is. I see the rapid unravelling of our collective moral and judicial fiber. Others, MANY MANY OTHERS, see a disenfranchised group finally getting a voice. This is insane. This isn't 1968. 1968 Russia and Vietnam were a gnat compared to the economic killer hornets of freaking China. The world is being distracted and misinformed by Western mainstream media. Tell me, explain to me how I'm wrong. Please. Or do you guys think China will be a kinder, gentler master then The United States of America has been? Because that is where we are headed. Help me understand why I'm wrong. 
>> > dj
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>> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:44:48 AM UTC-5, Don Johnson wrote:
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>> >> The world has been turned on its head. A few weeks ago a Conservative friend of mine let slip she expects Trump to nominate a woman to replace RBG. For the balance. She is probably right and I'm an idiot for not realizing the political reasoning but it frustrates me it seems to matter to so many. Who freakin cares what sex or what color you are anymore? Can you do the job? Will you follow the constitution and stop making stuff up? Or will you be like Gorsuch and write an opinion that interprets Title VII in a new and troubling way. I expect liberal judgements from Chief Justice Roberts but Gorsuch still has the lynch
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Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Balkanization of America

Hellow Alan. I hope you and yours are well. There are definitely radical Conservatives out there capable of terrible destruction. Timothy McVeigh comes to mind. As well as Anders Breivik. I'm afraid we will see more of this activity unfortunately. It's almost inevitable. That said, it's not Conservatives tearing down statues and breaking windows and looting stores. If these useless piles of dross have any politics at all it's all about increasing entitlements and canceling the police. Issues not generally associated with Conservatism. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd certainly be interested to read it. As far as BLM and Antifa are concerned they are radical left political groups. The one is unashamedly Marxist and the other uses it's name as a cover to promote anarchy. Antifa is right up Ted Kaczynski's alley. The deference we show these agitators is a black mark on the United States of America. I am actually embarrassed by it. And yes, I'm embarrassed by Trump's lack of leadership during this time as well. All the so-called Conservatives in Washington have no spine. Deeply disappointing. 

dj


On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 5:33:07 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
I was reading a great deal of the break-in and looting are being done by outside agitators not but the liberals or anti nazi groups. (Í am objecting to the shorting of what the group actually stands for.) What I am seeing is the people actually causing pointing at other is to divert investigators from looking in their direction..
Oddly a good investigation always looks into the parties pointing the fingers, it turned out most of the problems were caused by outsiders they turned out to be mostly  white supremacists ..
In other words the problems seem to start with extreme right conservative people..
In fewer words  ..  what federal investigators (the people actually doing the work) really avoid politics including your own..  a good investigation is about finding the facts not opinions.

do no harm

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <mind...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Balkanization of America

I hope you are correct. I'm seeing city governments often with the approval of the governor letting rioters break and steal and destroy with impunity. That's why it's still going on. We have a terrible media that stokes the fires of hatred and resentment 24/7. Facist tactics are used to try to silence Conservatives. I am deeply disturbed with how things are playing out. I don't want to be the chicken little so I don't let on how worried I am to my closest family members. Like I said, it's not the hard times, it's not the saber rattling from China, it's not Covid. It is our REACTION to these things. The Dems are insane lunatics and the Republicans are ineffective cowards. I am sick to death of them all. The FBI, the CIA, the Justice Dept., the Pentagon and the State Dept. are inept and/or corrupt. Don't get me started on the IRS. I've never been more depressed in my life I have no bluster left in me. Only quite disbelief. 

dj
   

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:19 AM ashok tewari <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
The good part is that America will rebound...so I believe. China will suffer more economic and military losses than any all the relative gains it might have enjoyed through global trade and unleashing of its homegrown virus.

Europe will learn : Pussies do not have friends, only protectors and sympathisers.

Russia will remain overtly with India and covertly with Quad, though it has to give in a lot to Chinese monetary and trade benefits.

Iran has a lot to deal with domestically...

On Saturday, June 27, 2020, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You state my exact thoughts. Which makes us weirdo conspiracy theorists in the eyes of most everyone else. My brother suggested I start reading the Economist regularly but I find I can barely stand it. Europe has such a low opinion of America. Most of the articles read like Chinese propaganda if not outright agitprop. Which is what CNN and most of the regular networks has become. Pure communist agitprop. "Mostly peaceful" my left nut. We are witnessing the dissolution of America. I wish I didn't believe that. These people celebrating our demise have no idea the pain that is coming. Absolutely none. The free money will run out but the jobs will still be gone. Governments will go bankrupt. Runaway inflation. Lying politicians promising "healing" and "rebuilding" and "social justice." I've never been more nervous in my life and it has NOTHING to do with covid. I can face hardship and trouble just fine but it is soooo disheartening to realize the vast majority of the American public doesn't recognize the real monster here. Too busy tilting at racist windmills. 
> dj
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:29 PM ashok tewari <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don, most yippie liberal leftists have a huge meme to surmount : America is Trump, and he is a liar, racist and insensitive bastard. So is America, in the mind of these juveniles.
>>
>> The second corruption is brought in by motivated politiking funded hugely by desperate Dems and diehard subversists like George Soros. This is organised, well oiled and propagated mayhem, misinformation and violent disruption. Any cause for any of this, put out as a justification, is a ruse planted and blown up rabble rouse useful idiots.
>>
>> China is vile and evil because it is ruled by communist dictators, a handful of them really who, among other ways, deploy 50% of its defence budget to enslave its citizens.
>>
>> It is a very concerted, well orchestrated opposition to American presidency as well as to its international power and esteem. China calculates the time is right to weaken its enemies, Russia is hung in a middle path, and the political grounds in democratic nations are marshy enough. There is a real chasm between the US and Continental Europe, and a new global formation (Quad, for instance) is still in the making. The pandemic has taken away much of their economic bases.
>>
>> It is interesting times, truly. The juveniles are upbeat. The satanic ideologues are smiling...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 22, 2020, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I figured out what's bothering me the most. Lots of things bother me, worry me, irritate me, exasperate me, etc. but generally I don't stress out about what I can't control. This is different. What bothers me the most about what is going on is that TOO FEW SEEM TO THINK THERE'S AN ACTUAL PROBLEM. Or, to be more precise, think the problem is the opposite of what it actually is. I see the rapid unravelling of our collective moral and judicial fiber. Others, MANY MANY OTHERS, see a disenfranchised group finally getting a voice. This is insane. This isn't 1968. 1968 Russia and Vietnam were a gnat compared to the economic killer hornets of freaking China. The world is being distracted and misinformed by Western mainstream media. Tell me, explain to me how I'm wrong. Please. Or do you guys think China will be a kinder, gentler master then The United States of America has been? Because that is where we are headed. Help me understand why I'm wrong. 
>> > dj
>> >   
>> >
>> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:44:48 AM UTC-5, Don Johnson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The world has been turned on its head. A few weeks ago a Conservative friend of mine let slip she expects Trump to nominate a woman to replace RBG. For the balance. She is probably right and I'm an idiot for not realizing the political reasoning but it frustrates me it seems to matter to so many. Who freakin cares what sex or what color you are anymore? Can you do the job? Will you follow the constitution and stop making stuff up? Or will you be like Gorsuch and write an opinion that interprets Title VII in a new and troubling way. I expect liberal judgements from Chief Justice Roberts but Gorsuch still has the lynch
>> >
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