Re: Mind's Eye Motive

According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
in which you believe..

Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
have to do that .. you can believe as you want..

Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
Allan



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
> determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious and
> one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is
> ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive sex
> drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
> The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for our
> behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ?
> Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware even
> though they are the real determinants of our actions.
> The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we are
> free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand freely.
> So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious
> determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we are
> selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can be
> judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
> evaporates into thin air !
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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Of course I talk to myself,
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Mind's Eye Motive

Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious and one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive sex drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for our behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ? Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware even though they are the real determinants of our actions.
The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we are free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand freely. So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we are selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can be judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage evaporates into thin air !

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Re: Mind's Eye spending Christmas

Happy New Year everyone! Too late to be useful now but a good way to get rid of residual moisture in a phone is to take it apart and submerge it in a bag of rice for a few hours. I used to use a hair dryer but saw this other technique in an episode of Elementary. Modern day Sherlock Holmes, I like it. I hate mince pie too but it's slightly better then fruit cake. 

I worked all through the Holidays including today. I'm off starting tomorrow and my brother's family is flying in from Bremerton, WA. to vist for the rest of the week. It's rainy and overcast here they should feel right at home. 

Last year was a helluva year. Storms, mass shootings, fiscal cliffs(Geronimo!) and Whitney Houston died in a bathtub. My ex-wife, mother of my only son, also passed unexpectedly with an aneurism in November.  Knew she was having headaches and was even more irritable then usual but I never expected this. It's been really rough on the boy. He's basically been abandoned 3 times. By me when I left after the divorce and was lucky to see him once a week, by his mom when she kicked him out of her house 3 years ago and again when she died. These long holidays suck and I'm not around to support him nearly enough. Guilt. 

I had to start the new year off with a good whine. Not my last I assure you. Good times and better memories to all.

dj


On Monday, December 24, 2012 10:08:53 AM UTC-6, archytas wrote:
Walking Maxwell is my preferred action.  Television and radio are a
disaster.  Sue is baking mince pies - I have always hated them!  Just
fixed my old neighbours' phone - or at least replaced it with an old
one of ours - theirs was full of water and I hoping it will work again
once I screw it back together (it's a special phone for old folks so
worth trying to fix).  Shaun went into town to buy a video game - but
they were sold out.  A turkey dinner beckons, daughters behaving (rare
when in same room unless they gang up on another victim - eldest and
her bloke are thinking of moving here from Israel).  Churches tend to
get to me in what we might call a 'reverse Molly' so it will be the
pub or a very long Maxwell if family company gets too much - we may
all go to give Sue some peace.  Reading some quantum material that
suggests there are 500 states of matter.  It's not helping screw the
phone back together!

Good luck to all.

On 24 Dec, 14:01, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have a merry, blessed and holy christmas Molly
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> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My husband and I are about to head out to church, my beloved Shrine of the
> > Little Flower, that was my family parish growing up.  We are arriving before
> > any planned mass - way before- to spend our own time feeling that sacred
> > space and spread a few of my brother Mike's ashes in the rose garden.  He
> > loved it there as a kid, and thought he would have probably become a priest
> > had the family not moved to a different state when we were young.  Knowing
> > Mike, as a priest he might have gone the way of Francis and Alan, getting
> > tired of the bureaucracy.  Or, he might have found a way like Merton to
> > circumvent in a monastery for awhile and come out charged, ready to bring
> > the holy spirit to Hollywood. Mike was charming and loved Hollywood.  He
> > might have just pulled it off.  I miss him and honor him this Christmas.
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> > What is everybody else doing this Christmas?
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> > My love to you all.
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