though I agree that inevitably one can't. I'm always saddened by
those who stress we should have communism or capitalism and can't see
there is some kind of loop. They want to reduce everything to a kind
of baby-talk more appropriate to sport locker rooms than responsible
dialogue. The escape from responsibility is into world-views that
exclude the other and especially consequences for others.
On Oct 22, 6:26 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To be held accountable for one's actions , doesn't it look scary when
> you know you couldn't have done otherwise given your personality at
> the given time and the circumstances. Yet we cannot escape
> responsibility !
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> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/
> > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through
> > knowledge?
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> > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are
> >> accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world
> >> you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a
> >> puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as
> >> it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are
> >> accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence
> >> that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's
> >> world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless
> >> society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on
> >> your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for
> >> your every action and inaction.
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> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as
> >> > fact... accountability is without meaning !
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> >> > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and
> >> > if I am aware of that personal freedom.
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> >> > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man
> >> >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not to
> >> >> God.
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> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..."
> >> >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative !
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> >> >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary.
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> >> >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and everything
> >> >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary follows --
> >> >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man and
> >> >> >> > society.
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