inspect and reflect on"
Therein lies the mystery...and truth. Very good, James.
On Oct 20, 10:08 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a beacon to me Molly, thanks. You remind me that the
> configurations of factors and circumstances may be complex but
> whatever terms we use lead into gold, or reciprocity and
> multidimensional thinking, or a social subconscious we can take it
> right back to home by asking, 'what does nature lay out clearly to
> inspect and reflect on'. I skimmed an article a few weeks ago that
> culminated in a simple and profound truth: whatever work you do, if it
> involves people it is fundamentally moral. Though I continue my
> struggle to find solutions in configurations of complex systems and
> dynamics your words on humanity resonate with a great 'standing wave'
> that is constantly perturbed but always returns. These things allow me
> to law down my weighs occasionally in a single breath, funny thing
> about a simple word like 'sigh' that can represent a multitude of
> thoughts. Aye, thoughts awander to Milgram's experiments now so I
> better get to work before anxiety creeps up.
>
> Watching quietly here lately but I love the excellent discussions
> going on. Fall has racked me this year, I should tend to the hearth
> vigilantly- in many ways.
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> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The issue is complex indeed. Medical marijuana has been legal in
> > Michigan for a few years, but the distribution system is a failure. I
> > know it took California many years to make it widely available but it
> > creates another level of bureaucracy for folks to get medical
> > treatment and makes it cost prohibitive in many cases. One nice long
> > stroll down Freemont street in Last Vegas on any given night will
> > illustrate some of your ideas here. Until we move to an understanding
> > that change comes from inside out, we pump ourselves with ideas and
> > substances that we find around us, thinking they will improve our
> > internal environment. Trouble is, that method only secures the
> > blindfold. It is an adolescent mindset that many do not outgrow.
> > Setting the conditions for resilliency and empowerment in kids takes
> > adults that understand that. Society is in short supply. Yet life
> > goes on and we are each continually called to our own instincts and
> > intuitions that are the only real guideposts that any of us have.
>
> > On Oct 12, 12:26 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The area is riddled with problems we can't solve in full Molly. I'm
> >> sure you must know how squalid it all gets. Rigsy is pointing to how
> >> we seem to fly into non-solutions on the basis of 'despising' the
> >> current generation of 'youth'. Lots of stuff in our homes manages to
> >> get into children, from bleach and disinfectant to racism. This, of
> >> course, is not a reason for adding more. I've seen academic ethnology
> >> (Dunlap et al googles) but it misses much of the plight. What it gets
> >> to some of is the 'exchanges' that go on - sex for drugs as young as 9
> >> - often for mothers and associated men. It's all a long way from
> >> Chris and I sharing a few beers and experimental chemistry.
> >> 'Models' get flung up without much thinking through - the classic here
> >> is the Dutch "legalisation" - this being no such animal. It's a
> >> limited decriminalisation and not entirely popular. It's better
> >> understood as attitudinal. I'm a fuggy muggy pub adherent and would
> >> like to see cannabis available under licence from them and to treat
> >> the issues under a medical model - but there's a big 'but' in that the
> >> crap behaviour associated with booze and drugs needs much harsher
> >> treatment, including follicle testing for kids in user families.
>
> >> I don't think the prohibition mentality helps in anything from
> >> abortion through to most vice - the big issue is how to prevent vice
> >> turning to rackets (our lotteries were once numbers rackets run by
> >> characters like Frank Nitty). Amsterdam politicians come out with
> >> declarations to sweep away the red light district and replace it with
> >> 'a red carpet to their wonderful museums' - but in truth our
> >> governments are not averse to organised crime money and encourage all
> >> sorts of 'off shore' dodges where this money is laundered.
>
> >> We need something other than the knee-jerk stuff rigsy outlines as
> >> part of the problem and a better understanding of the 'lack of
> >> harmony'. I saw Noel Gallagher (Oasis) talking persuasively about
> >> this last night. Celebrity is dangled everywhere but the truth is no
> >> jobs and earning capacity. Here our generation's 'self-reliance' and
> >> scorn for those who can't find worn as idlers and losers is very
> >> damaging. Every piece of detailed history I've seen shows these
> >> generational matters are endemic and take much the same form.
> >> Smuggling has a long history around prohibition, taxes (often levied
> >> for wars) or other trade issues.
>
> >> On Oct 12, 11:03 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I see the biggest barrier to your suggestion, Neil, is the question of
> >> > how to limit access to our kids, who's ability to reason doesn't
> >> > really develop until the early twenties. Most addictive behavior
> >> > begins before then. As it is, the access for them, although illegal,
> >> > isn't hard. Kids in the lowest and highest income families have the
> >> > same risk factors. It is thought that is because neither group is
> >> > given much attention by their families but for different reasons.
> >> > Most of these kids don't find much harmony with life, and the
> >> > percentage of addiction is highest.
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> >> > On Oct 11, 6:35 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > I'd like to see decriminalisation and public availability of most of
> >> > > the weaker drugs. I suspect the moral is channeled into looking down
> >> > > on vice instead of the actually more obvious evils like poverty.
>
> >> > > On Oct 10, 7:16 pm, "rigs...@yahoo.com" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > I learned some more about my parent's generation while watching
> >> > > > "Prohibition"- a film by Ken Burns on PBS. A few more pieces to add to
> >> > > > the jigsaw. I can see why they tightened the reins, so to speak. Maybe
> >> > > > this is a factor between generations- sort of a see-saw- regarding
> >> > > > behavior, expectations, mores- but I think it also exisits between
> >> > > > classes and other distinctions within society.
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> >> > > > What do you think?
>
> >> > > > Also- what about legalizing marijuana and other soft recreational
> >> > > > drugs and taxing them? Might be at least one boost to the ecomony/
> >> > > > revenue. If someone wants to over-do anything, they will, so are we
> >> > > > repeating the mistakes of Prohibition?
>
> >> > > > Why do you think people have emotional "blind spots"? Trauma or
> >> > > > ignorance...or both?
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