The people sucking the economy dry are just as accountable..
Time only marks passage and 100 years is nothing when you look at the passage of 500 or a !000 + .. When wealth or money is your 'God" with all the trappings it brings.. what happens to that happiness when that wealth no longer exists in your world?
Yes everyone is held accountable for their actions and what they failed to do in a world of transparency..I would not count on finding a blue light to return to being human..
Allan
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:42 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
One could hold Marx accountable for the horrors of the Soviet Union
and China under Mao. Not his economic analysis but some of
revolutionary urging - though surely countless abuses by the "noble
class" are worse. I did some shameful stuff handling informants in
our stupid war in Northern Ireland, excusing it at the time under a
greater good I now know false. We ran an even bloodier war in
Indonesia (28,000 dead) most in the UK were not aware of at the time
and many don't know about now (though it's no longer secret).
I've been led to believe we can't really discuss much on society
unless we address the realities of world power and its links to the
money system the rich dominate. Otherwise one more or less cops out
and makes a living. Teaching has led me to realise how scant my own
knowledge is, but also the lack of interest most people have in
learning more than what gets them by.
We now have the technology to show how many things link up and that
the "riches" developed in a shadow banking system that is bigger than
the real economy several times over are fictitious and merely suck
value out of toil - and the same technology could also regulate the
economy through 'transparent money' - instead it's used for the
opposite purpose and also supports the military complex. This is
obvious but people still don't get it.
On Oct 22, 7:47 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Life is always full of cause and effects. Everyone is accountable for the
> effects caused by their actions,, even if you claim to have no choice....
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> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > People 'escape' responsibility in fictitious ways all the time RP -
> > though I agree that inevitably one can't. I'm always saddened by
> > those who stress we should have communism or capitalism and can't see
> > there is some kind of loop. They want to reduce everything to a kind
> > of baby-talk more appropriate to sport locker rooms than responsible
> > dialogue. The escape from responsibility is into world-views that
> > exclude the other and especially consequences for others.
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> > On Oct 22, 6:26 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > To be held accountable for one's actions , doesn't it look scary when
> > > you know you couldn't have done otherwise given your personality at
> > > the given time and the circumstances. Yet we cannot escape
> > > responsibility !
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> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/
> > > > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through
> > > > knowledge?
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> > > > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are
> > > >> accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world
> > > >> you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a
> > > >> puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as
> > > >> it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are
> > > >> accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence
> > > >> that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's
> > > >> world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless
> > > >> society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on
> > > >> your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for
> > > >> your every action and inaction.
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> > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as
> > > >> > fact... accountability is without meaning !
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> > > >> > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and
> > > >> > if I am aware of that personal freedom.
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> > > >> > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man
> > > >> >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not
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> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
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> > > >> >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..."
> > > >> >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative !
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> > > >> >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary.
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> > > >> >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >> >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and
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> > > >> >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary
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> > > >> >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man
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> > > >> >> >> > society.
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