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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com> wrote:
I think RP we are going around and around in a contraditory circle here mate.If all is predetermined, and spirt has no concept of good or bad, or at least it makes no sense to talk about good and bad and spirit together, then why do good at all? What is the porpouse, what is the spiritual porpouse?
On Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:11:41 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote:When all actions good or bad arise from Spirit there is no sense in
claiming good to be from the spirit and bad from non-spirit , so there
is no sense in calling anything spiritual. But being active agents in
all actions we have the ability to choose those actions which are for
the upliftment of humanity , we can choose to be ethical and not
religious because many sins are committed in the name of religion.
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com> wrote:
> You see RP that also makes little sense to me.
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> If actions arise from spirit, then how do they loose their spirtual
> meaning? If it is humanity that falsly see's a division, a duality where in
> reality none exist then my original question is very relevant. For if all
> actions arise from spirit then in reality there is no good or bad.
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> If a man can be unscupulos and then claim his actions as being moved by
> spirt does he not seek to disengage his self from fault, from blame? This
> is clearly wrong, as much religious faith holds doing good as the correct
> thing to do.
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> On Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:00:18 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote:
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>> Since all actions arise from the Spirit, actions lose their spiritual
>> meaning and we ascribe human meaning to them , that is , good and bad
>> in relevance to human ethics and not under the authority of religious
>> scriptures. An unscrupulous man is unscrupulous and determinism
>> doesn't change anything.
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:50:20 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As everything is predetermined it follows that everything is done by
>> >> the
>> >> spirit , which makes all actions spiritual. But that has no meaning ,
>> >> so we
>> >> may say that that the word spiritual is obsolete and we should
>> >> distinguish
>> >> between good actions and bad actions , good people and bad people ,
>> >> scrupulous people and the unscrupulous. Also the definition of the good
>> >> and
>> >> bad changes from clime to clime , but generally the definition of good
>> >> and
>> >> bad is universal if you look at it with a humanitarian eye. Thus spirit
>> >> ,
>> >> being all-encompassing, goes into the background.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > More importantly if everything is predetermined then why even speak of
>> > good
>> > and bad, scrupulous or unscrupulos?
>> >
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|_D Allan
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