Re: Mind's Eye the greatest philospher of our time

These governing Laws are really not a threat, per se.  We retain
choice in
the matter. Like the laws of gravity, we can chose to leap from height
with
or without some apparatus which would prevent us from a violation
thereof.
So any teachings of their existence  and how to survive in harmony
with
them is more of a favor than a threat or a command,

On May 14, 7:48 pm, pathfinder <masonedward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In effort to begin where I left off, Archytas, it is a good thing that
> you don't waste your time in search of any of the artifacts listed in
> any of the first five books of the Torah, the first five books of the
> Old Testament . These books were written as allegorical to simplify
> the Laws inherent in reaching the formation of the triangle
> (Knowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding). They describe the battle and
> the journey each individual faces in that process. They also simplify
> the Spiritual Laws of ancient Egypt from the more than 40 Laws to the
> 10, which were later broken down again by Jesus to 2.
>
> As for the teachings of Jesus ( which was not his name), we should
> should note that what we got as his teachings were instituted by Paul.
> Jesus spoke in parables to all except his disciple, explicitly for the
> purpose that the people would not get it. Then the disciple were
> either killed or exiled within 70 years after Jesus left the scene and
> the writings which they left were burned and forbidden. It should also
> be noted that Jesus told of this theft in a parable where the keepers
> of the vineyard killed the son and claimed his inheritance. Daniel
> also spoke of it when he mentioned the Proclamation that would be set
> up which would defy The very Laws that would elevate humanity; ( bring
> blood into the temple).
>
> To get more reasoning to this scenario one could compare Isaiah
> 6:9-13; and Matthew 13:10-17; and 34:10. You will see one difference
> in Isaiah and Matthew, where Isaiah said you go and blind them making
> them hard-hearted and deft. But in Matthew these writers wrote as if
> the people done it to themselves. This should not be surprising given
> the intentions involved.
>
> This would place us in our present state; in the furnish were we would
> be purified by the flames of judgement. Our only hope is to attain the
> right state in regard to the Laws regardless who or what we recognize
> as God, the controlling forces of doing good or bad. It is not even
> necessary that one believe in a god as long as they can arrive at a
> state where they recognize and respect the powers of this force and
> the need to respect their fellow man as himself. But somehow this is
> just too simple. Man tends to need it more complicated or he is
> tempted by the benefits of keeping such knowledge from the people.
>
> On May 14, 5:48 pm, Edward Mason <masonedward...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Archytas, thanks for those words. Your points well taken. As for where you
> > place your glasses, lol, we tend to forget such things because of the lack
> > of attention at the time of placing such things. If I lay my keys on the
> > table while my attention is focused feeding the dog to get that done so
> > that I may began to study, then by the time I am ready to study I may have
> > no idea where my glasses are.
> > To be clear, I have no religion. I think that religion is nothing more than
> > a tradition that may or may not have served some higher purpose at the time
> > it began. One of the many problems with traditions is that once they are
> > practiced by a group, they are too hard to change to keep up with any
> > present condition. Not to mention the errors inherent in the first place.
> > Religion is the prime example, as they all come from the misinterpretation
> > of the hieroglyphs.
> > Take for instance the, take note of the symbol that we find on all
> > medically associated items such as hospitals and ambulances; that of the
> > two serpents entwined around the sword, with the two wings of the bird at
> > the top from the handle of the sword. This is actually a recipe for cure of
> > disease. For centuries the science behind that knowledge was unknown.
> > However, it was believed that the symbol itself had some healing qualities,
> > so it was adopted into the medical communities.
> > The recipe itself is to cut the heads from two snake, filter the poison
> > through the birds, and then consume the birds. So the cure for snake bites
> > was invented into modern society. Only more recently have this science been
> > expanded to include lizards, spiders, and other venomous creatures. The
> > effect of the venom is in reverse when manipulated and is used in a variety
> > of conditions to include heart diseases.
> > So a lot of the fables and ancient writings upon which religions are based
> > on, are merely misrepresentations. We are left with trying to make sence
> > and practical use from what we get.
>
> > The end to that cycle is a colletive aquasition by individuals in the
> > societies of Correct Knowledge and Wisdom. Those two will Breed Perfect
> > Understanding within the individuals. As these enlightened Ones relate what
> > is termed The Marriage is thus formed. The misinterpretation of this
> > formular is where religions get the teachings of the trinity (triangle) and
> > the 360 degrees (the square).
>
> > I will have to finish this message a little later. Sorry! I just wanted to
> > get this little bit out.
>
> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > very true,,
>
> > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> What? (Y)our belief system creates/determines (y)our experiences
>
> > creates/determines (y)our belief system!
>
> > >> Am 13.05.2013 12:43 schrieb "Allan H" <allanh1...@gmail.com>:
>
> > >>> Gabby Beliefs have nothing to do with any thing as I really do not care
>
> > what a person believes, in reality I find different beliefs quite
> > interesting. I will probably as some very dumb questions .. Yet It
> > is against group rules at we can not verbally assault another person or
> > their character.. and that my dear is exactly what our friend has done..
>
> > >>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >>>> I don't understand what all this fuss is about, Allan, except for this
>
> > being right thing. And yes, there is times and perspectives and questions
> > that ask for "Am I being right or wrong here?". A totally legitimate
> > question. The cross with its focus on marking the point might give you the
> > orientation you are looking for. I still like the celtic cross with its
> > circular element around the cross better though. Not that this makes or
> > marks any difference in our reality, but in our Wirklichkeit. God's son
> > being mortal put something "new" in focus, but this knowledge about our
> > mortality was not new, only a newly relativizing mainstreaming process
> > began. What you call the Kingdom of God in your Kingdom of William of
> > Orange in the Netherlands! ;)
>
> > >>>> 2013/5/13 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> > >>>>> You are very right kenny, but I still to share some insights  a
>
> > little to much probably.thing o To me it is strange how people react when
> > then are t;; threatened. I do not see how the reality that one is already
> > living in the kingdom of God. Other than trying to marginalize me. Edward
> > how bout proving that the kingdom of God not here,, something other than
> > you say so. What evidence do you have about your beliefs that Jesus was not
> > crucified.
>
> > >>>>> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
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> > >>>>> On May 12, 2013 11:10 PM, "archytas" <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >>>>>> I never really understand why people believe in old fables Edward.  I
> > >>>>>> spend plenty of time looking for my misplaced glasses and am too
> > smart
> > >>>>>> to bother with a mobile phone because I'd lose it (I check emails on
> > >>>>>> my laptop and Skype from that instead).  I don't go looking for lost
> > >>>>>> arks, fairies at the bottom of the garden or historical figures from
> > >>>>>> ancient or modern fictional text.  Religion is control fraud - not
> > >>>>>> worth falling out over.  Allan forgets this sometimes, but this is
> > >>>>>> worth ignoring long-term.  We all begin in a forgetting, even if we
> > >>>>>> must find past lives as RP suggests.  I haven't got much further than
> > >>>>>> discovering our collective memories, even if written down, are mostly
> > >>>>>> wrong.  Xtian, Muslim, 8th Day Adventist and Cargo Cultist are all
> > the
> > >>>>>> same to me - most of us extend courtesy and hospitality beyond
> > 'chosen
> > >>>>>> people' status.  Sometimes we forget.  Jesus may have told us to
> > >>>>>> beware German Protestant women who vote green, or not.  The
> > Upanishads
> > >>>>>> may hold the secret to the treatment of women, or not.  Numbers 31
> > may
> > >>>>>> be about a great leader, or a war criminal or both.  Of course, in
> > >>>>>> elevating any text to 'fundamental' one certainly denies the notion
> > of
> > >>>>>> not worshiping false Idols.
>
> > >>>>>> On 12 May, 20:47, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> > sorry edward all I have heard is you attack me personally,,  and
> > you have
> > >>>>>> > said  nothing else..
>
> > >>>>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Edward Mason <
>
> > masonedward...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > >>>>>> > > Have it your way, Allan. But know that beliefs do not tailor
> > realities;
> > >>>>>> > > actions do. We all reap the fruit of the seeds that we plant. My
> > commision
> > >>>>>> > > is to speak the Words so that they will be heard; never to force
> > one to use
> > >>>>>> > > or acquire the ability to use common sence.
>
> > >>>>>> > > On Sunday, May 12, 2013, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> > > > Mr. Edward Mason,   why are you attacking me personally?  Your
> > >>>>>> > > teachings??   interesting  when you came  you try to hide behind
> > a mystery
> > >>>>>> > > veil,  a common tactic in fundamentalist trying to create
> > interest and
> > >>>>>> > > build their importance.. I have already apologized once I will
> > not do it
> > >>>>>> > > again.
> > >>>>>> > > > Actually   For example: I don't even think that Jesus died on
> > the cross.
> > >>>>>> > > I believe that Paul proclaimed his own teachings as that of
> > Jesus after...
>
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