what does welfare have to do with the problem? I see no relationship.
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
The Boston Bombers were on welfare. Money is not the problem or
solution.//"No man is an island..."- John Donne.
> Am 15.05.2013 09:04 schrieb "Allan H" <allanh1...@gmail.com>:
On May 15, 2:49 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Demonetarizing of extremists would be the next logical step, but why would
> I go there if it doesn't affect me? /mineral stage exploring photosynthesis/
>
>
>
> > I think a lot of the demonetization of Islam come from with in Islam
> > itself and the massive amounts of killing and murdering women and children,
> > Most of the guys i know that are islamic in faith I
> > like.. apparent condoning of these actions by the leadership.. now to be
> > fair I was shocked to hear the Islamic denying the Boston Bomber was
> > Islamic and refused to bury him inn the islamic cemetery.. shock and
> > surprise
>
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:44 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> You would argue with Aristotle, I presume. Hierarchy exists for a
> >> reason.
>
> >> You might be interested in an article on John le Carre (I think his
> >> real name is David Cornwall) which appeared recently on the BBC site.
> >> Sigh...at 81 he is still a dreamboat- and that's just his photo! He
> >> has some more to write about- the demonization of Islam.
>
> >> On May 14, 9:27 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I've found reading and writing more or less impossible for about 10
> >> > years now - this may seem odd as I do a lot of both. More or less
> >> > nothing comes without baggage I don't want and, of course, nothing
> >> > survives the deconstruction of science or serious history. I know I
> >> > don't really want much more than a few friends and security - but even
> >> > this is to want a radically different society. Words are so
> >> > difficult. Religion is a very difficult example. I'm not against
> >> > what Molly or Gabby or Don do with it in their different ways - but it
> >> > remains a control fraud in my world-view. Old stories in academe have
> >> > the congregation as undergraduates, the sermon deliverers as masters
> >> > and PhDs and researchers as the content and truth producers.
> >> > Hierarchy is a religious term in origin. I'm revolted, less by the
> >> > thought of this fiction, than the ease with which many swallow it.
>
> >> > There is a spiral dynamic at work - we used to consider such in terms
> >> > of RSVP cycles or an orchestra practising - you sort of (mostly) are
> >> > never starting at the beginning but join in the cycle. A colleague
> >> > did a PhD on the children's writer Enid Blyton - fair enough - one can
> >> > investigate anything. I have no problem with this in-itself. The
> >> > model sadly extends to
> >> > a great deal of teaching in which the fictional nature of text-made-
> >> > basic is elided. I doubt you know more management and economics after
> >> > spending time with business school books, than you would after reading
> >> > a few decent novels. A contradiction in all non-science learning
> >> > concerns making texts into Idols to worship.
>
> >> > Science only takes us so far and at heart is not very philosophical.
> >> > I favour gardening and cooking analogies - the 'theory' has been
> >> > called tropical fish realism. I follow advice from science books much
> >> > as I follow gardening and cooking books - and think here, given
> >> > equality of kitchen materials and food - whether we'd choose to eat my
> >> > cooking or rigs'! Skill factors not always in the books and
> >> > experiential learning are important. I spend time reading really
> >> > complex stuff on the history of science - mostly German work of late
> >> > and I'm not at all sure I understand better without the translation.
> >> > My story of science starts in approximation by creatures of gravity in
> >> > co-evolution - but gravity remains a label. This is some way from
> >> > growing plants with recommended amounts of fertiliser, nematode
> >> > biological warfare against slugs and strict instruction against
> >> > digging in my raised beds to the cats and dog.
>
> >> > Our cats all strayed in at some time and we have a male ginger that
> >> > still doesn't trust me (one wonders on the poor thing's past trauma).
>
> >> > On May 13, 11:46 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > Not quite sure of your focus James. In terns of models, I like Spiral
> >> > > Dynamics. It allows the recognition and inclusion of everyone in
> >> > > their own terms.
>
> >> > > On May 12, 11:19 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > You have a rapt audience Molly, I have many questions. I would be
> >> very
> >> > > > interested in information regarding child developmental psychology
> >> and
> >> > > > any individuals who have a story of their experiences and
> >> reflections
> >> > > > written. I understand there are many types of people out there and I
> >> > > > didn't think there was a word for it at all other than 'freak'. If
> >> you
> >> > > > have knowledge on this I can't express how valuable some would find
> >> it.
>
> >> > > > Do any of them feel like a 'pool of reflection'? Sensitivity to
> >> lying
> >> > > > and deceit? Is there any norm, parallels with autism, can they
> >> freely
> >> > > > dissociate (as in the complex, but the book is useless in this
> >> > > > instance)? Any statistical research out there, or terms I can use to
> >> > > > find more? Spare nothing please, I will cripple google with the
> >> fury of
> >> > > > my searches on your every word.
>
> >> > > > On 5/12/2013 9:30 AM, Allan H wrote:
>
> >> > > > > I agree with you Molly
>
> >> > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > <mailto:mollyb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > " I seem to learn in reverse starting with an
> >> > > > > intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird"
>
> >> > > > > IMHO being in-tune with the unseen (or infinite) is a
> >> particularly
> >> > > > > sensitive and rare form of perception. I am always surprised
> >> and
> >> > > > > delighted to find such a person. Listening to our instincts
> >> and
> >> > > > > intuitions first, and allowing the material world to validate
> >> > > > > naturally is living life inside out.
>
> >> > > > > On May 11, 11:59 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > Glad you said it Allan, my enthusiasm told me to leave the
> >> box
> >> > > > > alone. I
> >> > > > > > think the term 'unknown commodity' fits, and there are some
> >> strange
> >> > > > > > varieties out there as I've known at least one, others are
> >> > > > > suspect but
> >> > > > > > as I can see how they would be driven nuts I won't be out
> >> there
> >> > > > > > interviewing. The curiosity crosses my mind at times on the
> >> rare
> >> > > > > > occasion that I catch the news of whether someone was just
> >> > > > > another dumb
> >> > > > > > nut or did we just lose another potential major asset to
> >> > > > > civilization.
> >> > > > > > Yes, if we worked to meet the needs of all without
> >> exception, I said
> >> > > > > > this exact thing to someone regarding cultural integration
> >> the
> >> > > > > other day
> >> > > > > > in regards to our cultural isolation. An ounce of
> >> prevention.. a
> >> > > > > pound
> >> > > > > > of agression. It isn't even in the common vernacular I'm
> >> afraid.
>
> >> > > > > > I am at a loss for meaning to your last sentence my
> >> instincts
> >> > > > > throw up
> >> > > > > > red flags on the subject. A few times I've been able to
> >> approach the
> >> > > > > > subject by reassociating an external self to see things as a
> >> > > > > story that
> >> > > > > > I was free to speak the truth of and pursue compassion and
> >> say
> >> > > > > 'Im so
> >> > > > > > sorry that...', as an older person would say to a child.
> >> It's still
> >> > > > > > blank though, push some more and blank to freeze (it's good
> >> to
> >> > > > > know the
> >> > > > > > physiological effects of stress disorders there), push more
> >> and
> >> > > > > it's .
> >> > > > > > morning shits and shakes for a few plus temporary immune
> >> system
> >> > > > > > shutdown. There are a variety of mental disciplines,
> >> meditative
> >> > > > > > techniques, insights into my nature, and preventive
> >> disciplines
> >> > > > > that can
> >> > > > > > be derived from experiences but I can't tell him 'you
> >> deserve
> >> > > > > better'
> >> > > > > > because it's relevance ends as a gesture. The process is
> >> > > > > intuitive with
> >> > > > > > others, a born talent, I seem to learn in reverse starting
> >> with an
> >> > > > > > intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird. ;-) My sense of
> >> > > > > humor is
> >> > > > > > improving though, not being understood is so damn BORING,
> >> it's
> >> > > > > enough to
> >> > > > > > make a person develop ADHD.
>
> >> > > > > > On 5/11/2013 8:11 AM, Allan H wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > there is great value in systematic enlightenment,,, I
> >> also think
> >> > > > > > > though that in needs to be a attachment to those out of
> >> the
> >> > > > > box and
> >> > > > > > > not dismissing them.. knowledge and access to it is
> >> spread
> >> > > > > through
> >> > > > > > > out humanity. the problems comes when someone starts
> >> saying I
> >> > > > > > > deserve more.
>
> >> > > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:23 AM, James <
> >> ashkas...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>>>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > I agree that learning is self taught on the condition
> >> that
> >> > > > > most of
> >> > > > > > > the means and content is circumstantial and not
> >> chosen,
> >> > > > > > > 'systematique' is an abstraction and so for most I
> >> think
> >> > > > > it has
> >> > > > > > > referential truth (as a resource) but not process
> >> modeling
>
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