Re: Mind's Eye Self-mastery

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On Jun 17, 7:49 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Detroit is as you say, having the powder-keg feeling with severe
> problems in housing for long term residents.  Midtown and Downtown
> have investors coming in to renovate historic buildings into lofts and
> condos - 95% occupied by youngsters and entrepreneurs. Detroit is a
> low cost option to start a business so a new cultural/artistic class
> is emerging to redesign the city.  Bankruptcy of the first major
> american city seems inevitable sometime later this year because of
> years of corruption and neglect.  this will have interesting and
> problematic ripples into the larger economies of the state and
> country, with big problems for pension funds and bond ratings.  Why no
> one saw it coming, or cared is a mystery.
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> At the same time there are big investors coming in and donating for
> essential services like emergency medical and police and fire.  there
> is a network of all security agencies, federal, local, state, private
> - that share surveillance and crime info. this network protects the
> business area.  Not sure how they swung the memorandum of
> understanding thing- sharing of information and all - but they did out
> of necessity and it is working. The downtown and midtown areas are
> safer than they have been in decades, although the black on black
> crimes in the outlying neighborhoods is untouched.
>
> the convention center is now a model for regional operation, as in
> 2009, because the city had allowed it to fall apart, the state formed
> a regional authority with city, tri-county and state representation.
> It is funded by line item entertainment tax (hotel and such) collected
> by the state, and the property itself is leased from the city on a
> thirty year (three term option) capital lease.  It was a good deal for
> the city, as they receive $2M a year instead of losing $15M a year
> trying and failing to operate it.  The Emergency Manager brought in by
> the state to see the city through bankruptcy is advocating the
> formation of more regional authorities for other city assets that have
> degraded.
>
> The result may be something along the line of the old megalopolis
> where the cities blend into larger areas that include the suburbs and
> even other cities in close proximity, out of financial necessity.
>
> Manufacturing is coming back, especially in the auto, medical, defense
> and technology sectors. There is a plan to institute urban farming in
> the areas that have been abandon and the homes demolished, and there
> are plenty of them.  It will be corporate farming, tied into the Wayne
> State University research and manufacturing center for developing
> products from corn and soy - as the land is unsuitable for growing
> food.
>
> Jobs are scarce, and movement between jobs very difficult.  But as
> business comes back to the downtown area, and it is coming back, jobs
> come with it.  the convention center itself employees thousands of
> people, mostly union workers, and the union environment has its
> difficulties.  Michigan has just become a right to work state with
> much contention, and the unions demonstrate regularly in front of my
> office.
>
> It's a show that requires not only pop corn, but Junior Mints and a
> large coke ( with a snort from the flask from time to time.)
>
> On Jun 17, 6:05 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > You could get more of them illegally Molly.  I've just watched Parks
> > and Recreation via Novamov.  Amy Poehler would make a great Dr Who.
> >  They did the gay turn via Torchwood and it would be good to see a
> > woman in the role.  Current feeble jokes include there being no more
> > Dr Whos - they will be replaced by a telephone help line.  Pity we
> > can't just press teleport molly - so I could take you to some real
> > British accents north of the Caledonian canal, Cornwall, Geordieland,
> > East coast Irish-English - Dr Whospeak is very BBC.  We'd be regarded
> > as white settlers in the Highlands so we might need the sonic
> > screwdriver!
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> > I'm sure you're right on Brahman - mastery is not a good concept if
> > conflated with perfection.  I think my real understanding of self/
> > individual starts in anthropology/biology and thus I tend to view it
> > through culture/environment interaction in co-evolution and to doubt
> > the individual self, other than as a small constituent of  competing-
> > cooperating individual or sub-system forms.  I'm not so sure on the
> > taste thing - I tend to an intense world that creates taste as I watch
> > - though this is clearly illusory - I get whiskey when the actor is
> > drinking cold tea.  The 'attack' on my intense world by television is
> > small in comparison with work in the Bombay slums or some of our own
> > hideous shambles.
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> > On another point Molly - how is Detroit?  Most of our comparable
> > former manufacturing cities (Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool,
> > Glasgow, Leeds-Bradford, Hull and so on) have rebuilt centres - the
> > problems are generally in housing schemes surrounding them - a bit
> > like Paris.  There are few jobs that allow people to develop self-
> > sufficiency and security - and that 'powder-keg' feeling.
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> > On 17 June, 20:12, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I was sorry to run out of Dr. Who episodes on Netflix as I found them
> > > very amusing.  During the time that I was absorbed by them, my dreams
> > > were filled with folks speaking with British accents.  What fun.
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> > > For me, self mastery has nothing to do with denying or doing violence
> > > to my appetites.  This said, none of my appetites run away with me and
> > > have been blessed to escape addiction although my Irish family is
> > > riddled with it.  Always being ready for what is next helps leave what
> > > was behind, or at least, gives little room for obsession.  After
> > > awhile I found that each experience presented had its own flavor, yet
> > > all had an over riding feeling of distance - like watching a movie,
> > > knowing the actors can taste what they are eating, but not being able
> > > to taste with them.  Ken Wilber attributes it to what he calls "One
> > > Taste".  There is only Brahman.  The mastery is beyond self.
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> > > On Jun 17, 2:48 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > My Bulgarian neighbours have a still Don - so cheap whiskey is more
> > > > difficult to give up, especially as it tastes better than most of the
> > > > top shelf.  Progressing humanity in a humane direction is tough.  What
> > > > we need is something as easy as swooning teenagers with i-Phones  I'm
> > > > actually serious about this.  I'm beginning to feel like Dr Who - the
> > > > only one who can see the illusion keeping us in thrall to human-
> > > > skinned aliens.  I know this isn't true, but the struggle just doesn't
> > > > seem worth it.
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> > > > I reckon most of us could be president and be as bad as any history
> > > > has thrown up.  Leadership is pretty easy once you crack
> > > > Entinwobbleism .The problem is big government and dogs who eat one's
> > > > false teeth.  I think we need to spot that government really doesn't
> > > > take place in Parliament and Congress.  Frederick Soddy (a chemist who
> > > > wrote on economics) knew this in 1934. The small change we need is to
> > > > rid ourselves of the banksters and get to a can do attitude with money
> > > > that isn't about hoarding the stuff and letting a few steal it so
> > > > easily.
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> > > > On 17 June, 16:51, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I have been inspired. I'm off cheap whisky. Only top shelf for me from now
> > > > > on. I'm also never going to dip snuff again. Ever. Isn't the English
> > > > > version of Entinhaltichung wobbly?
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> > > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:23 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I think War Plan Red as actually the US defence plan against possible
> > > > > > Brit invasion via Halifax in Canada - written around 1930.  They
> > > > > > actually built the aerodromes near the border.
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> > > > > > For some reason I was thinking about Gabby and German politics in
> > > > > > terms of RP's self-mastery.  I'd tend to vote Green here if we had a
> > > > > > decent PR system.  They poll about 15% in Deutschland and are rather
> > > > > > smartly dressed for my taste these days.  When I was last there they
> > > > > > were split between whether to enter real politics or just do protest
> > > > > > and looked like swamp creatures.  Merkel is still the front runner and
> > > > > > actually is a swamp creature.  She has mastered the RP scheme.These
> > > > > > days, she seems to have no policy of her own. Instead, after a
> > > > > > suitable delay, she takes on opposition policies in a diluted form.
> > > > > > Intellectual critics complain that she has no 'idea', no 'concept'.
> > > > > > And to describe what she does, or rather doesn't, they have coined a
> > > > > > frightful new German word: Entinhaltlichung, meaning
> > > > > > 'Decontentification - though, of course, no Englishman would use such
> > > > > > a word, even if it was in his lexicon.  All this made me think of what
> > > > > > our word for RP-style self-mastery would be, given it means not doing
> > > > > > some stuff you didn't really want to in the first place and aren't
> > > > > > really bothered about.  It all feels about as passionate as
> > > > > > Entinhaltlichung.  Anyway, until RP circulates the rest of his hidden
> > > > > > missive, I have given up Frau Merkel as my contribution to self-
> > > > > > mastery week.  Not many women who look old enough to be my mother are
> > > > > > actually two years younger than me, so this and my renewed dedication
> > > > > > on not eating pickled onions matches RP's booze and tabs.
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> > > > > > On 17 June, 07:49, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > pickled onions  hmm  more for me..    always knew the low life royal
> > > > > > > dynasties were all tied together and terribly inbred. Hmm if  war plan
> > > > > > red
> > > > > > > had been implemented would
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