Re: Mind's Eye Re: Positive ideas education

There is some research indicating IQ is dropping and our brains are getting smaller.  I've long suspected most expert knowledge isn't.  Clearly, I'm not going to turn up at  bone pointer's place rather than hospital if ill, but I doubt our universities and schools serve much direct learning purpose.  Immigration is seen here much as Don suggests.  Though we have a lot of Asian doctors, you only have to look at a taxi rank to see much immigration has taken base jobs.  I'd guess from my visits that London is now 50% immigrant.  We have been failing to educate and train our own for as long as I can remember.  Education seems to have expanded to soak up the decline in work and need for childminding.  One of the most radical questions concerns what to do with people who can't even get into university at the current low standards.  Another is how university education has become so expensive and rarely lifts the skills or prospects of people not already from well-off families.

On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 04:55:36 UTC+1, Don Johnson wrote:
I agree with apprenticeship programs Andrew. We are all exploited in some way. It would be a fantastic way to indoctrinate new immigrants. Those that fail get a free ride back to their country of origin. We'd have Big Business actively recruiting in other countries competing for their best and brightest to come to the shining city on the hill(that's the USA btw) to make their fortune. I've read CEO's moaning about how hard it is to recruit from other countries because of the pain in the ass immigration laws we have. Meanwhile it's easy as hell for the huddled masses to crowd in and get a free stay pass, free education, food stamps and social security. Somebody tell me, what is wrong with this picture? 


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:06 AM, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com> wrote:

Excerpt of my science fiction book "A Short History of a Long Future - a Guide for New-man"

"Indoctrination centers called schools were organized. Starting at an early age with kindergartens, children were removed from the tutelage and sanctity of families and from the exploitation of factories. They were cultivated under a program of brainwashing called education where they were programmed and trained to be obedient and skilled adult workers."

Getting more to Molly`s point below, in the end, it is more of "who you know" than "what you know".  Perhaps more apprenticeship programs (a la Switzerland) should be used where most of the learning is done on the job. As an apprentice, you are paid very little and you are exploited a lot, but you do end up learning, and you do usually end up having a job at the end if you get thru it.

On Saturday, August 16, 2014 3:26:46 AM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
The cost analysis for US universities includes the online courses, Alan.  Most have them.  then their are universities where most of the course work is online.  the diplomas aren't worth much in the job market.


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