To understand you correctly, you prefer that the people peacefully accept and keep their union with the country they are in rather than to promote either fighting for their freedom or having a democratic vote on it.
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:20:37 PM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
-- On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:20:37 PM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
I agree with Howard Zinn, there is no just war: http://catalog.sevenstories.com/products/terrorism-and- war That doesn't change the fact that somewhere on earth, there is always war.
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:Again, as I said earlier, both instances of separation US vs Britain and Europe vs Soviet Union were the result of people banding together to conquer the common enemy. In the case of the family or any other unit of people I don't agree with "forcing" people together. In terms of "fighting to the bitter end" many world conflicts are resolved by bringing the opposition to its knees. Conflicts that are never resolved only force the greater destruction over generations of time.
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:05:25 AM UTC-4, andrew vecsey wrote:All the participants in this discussion except me, as far as I understand, are against giving people the choice to separate and be independent of the country they find themselves in. It seems to me that it means that all the participants that are against this "friendly separation" must be in favor of letting people fight to the bitter end for their separation, and/or for forcing people to stay united against their will.
My question to you all is the following: Do you feel the same way about forcing people to live together against their will also in families like in the case of divorce.
A second question: How about past historic events of "separation" like that in America from the British, or more recently in the eastern block countries in Europe from the Soviet Union'
On Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:24:16 PM UTC+2, Gabby wrote:......And no, I don't buy the friendly separation. You develop in different directions, yes. I find the choice argument particularly often used by those who have not been fairly voted into their ownership status btw.
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