The serious implications of deep green are beyond our public discourse at the moment. There are plenty of books and quite a strong academic base. I think Tony was pointing out earlier it is very easy to 'get up ourselves' and in the end our 'Just William' or 'Three Musketeers' is just another example. I had a very encouraging and protective big sister (have) and despite all the cricket, rugby and soccer never liked male only company. A gay friend (we were holding hands listening to Rachmaninov at the time) once admitted his act started when he unlocked his bedroom door in the morning. I may not have known quite what he meant, but knew immediately it applied for me too.
-- I carry plastic bags when walking the dawgs (they are due - Max is practising his hypnotism on me) though sometimes don't use them when they get into Tony's eco-recycle system. I lack focus and feel like talking about hippo dung eco-systems that die out without the stuff. People have taken to hanging doggy-do-bags in the hedgerows - anyone know what this is about? Max, Zak and Tilly (el catto) are carbon footprints, though this is hardly my relationship with them, or any of you carbon footprints either.
Economics (deep green would replace this) is the most boring subject I ever studied - mostly self-taught. I owe a great deal to the paedophile who taught me just how boring it was at school before he ran off with one of the sixth form girls, thus forcing me to study biology instead (how lucky for the ants was that Tony)? What we don't grok on economics is that we know 'sod all squared' (an economic term - they like squaring the irrelevant) and yet vote on 'the economy' having spent time in education studying where apostrophes go and to avoid women resembling Jane Eyre like the plague - there is something deeply suspicious about women who want to blind you before marriage and then nurse you back to limited vision. The repressed sexuality stuff is OK, though the biologist has probably already been traumatised by the sight of female chimpanzees on the pull. The bildung's roman is weak stuff after that. Traumatised by English teachers, I am more scared over the apostrophe placement than the elasticity of supply and demand. We have nearly everything wrong, though this doesn't mean humans were created by aliens because we only have 23 pairs of chromosomes and the apes 24 (the thesis of 'Everything We Know Is Wrong' - this term googles if you feel like some adventurous trivia).
Philosophers have long questioned what we might do 'After Virtue' (Alasdair MacIntyre) - dog walk postponed due to hailstones here (no doubt due to global warming). I am no fan of virtue ethics on the grounds it places Tony, RP, Andrew, Pol, Allan, me etc. at the free table spouting on the rights of man, directing slaves to produce more food, wine and flute girls, sharing wives as property and giving women the right to leave home to go to funerals after they are sixty. If you need a university education to work this out, god save you - and worse, some don't get that much university education actually leads to a virtue ethics of a one percent at the free table on the backs of the rest of us through economic rents. I say 'rest of us' with a shudder as a white man. We call this situation 'meritocracy' - so what is left other than ridicule? And what rationality would be left if we could really do ridicule other than as a theatre event? One can think of ridicule, a theatre of the absurd or oppressed, as a means to enter rationality - to find what we should be talking about and doing - a kind of conceptual art not about playing to the gallery of rich buyers.
In postmodernism, one has (interesting term given 'anything goes') to drop seriousness whilst not dancing on graves - yet presumably one also has to stop using postmodern bulldung to make a living in the ordinary economy, else one becomes a Sophist in the pay of the Establishment Zoo, no doubt claiming to be a flute player to gain a sense of virtue and to be able to pay one's haemorrhoid bill after special services rendered.
Deep green would modernise the third world - and I contend we have never been modern and there is no viable model to roll out because we are too selfish to take the self-ridicule needed to start discussions based on reality rather than socially created fantasies-made-real like monetary policy and that the standard western life can be rolled out everywhere. Burn some more oil Tony, I'm feeling morally cold ...
On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:41:36 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:41:36 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
PS to TreasurerHow did Molly get in free?
On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:40:43 PM UTC, archytas wrote:Why thank you Mollady (or should I say 'Joan'?). The thought of Gabby playing Violet Elizabeth in a ginger wig to Allan's William (I have no dramatic inclinations) is irresistibly absurd. No need for the theatre given how close we live to Detroit or Bolton. For that matter, I can get my fill of Violet Elizabeths by switching on any newschannel - dreadful, vapid creatures all and sadly without Gabby's intellect or sense of fun. Cursed with a lack of bisexuality I only notice the women, which is presumably the intent as there is no news. I envisage a first club meeting at a cricket match, though these days I doubt any of us is young enough to drink enough to actually enjoy the tedious spectacle, unless our dogs were unleashed to take part. Max is already banned from my local club on the basis of his fielding ability. Gabby would soon grasp it makes more sense to clonk the bowler at the beginning of his run, rather than let him release the ball-projectile at the batter (women players have rejected this gender neutral term in favour of batsman). This would produce a series of nil - nil draws, though be quicker than coming to the same result after 5 days of standard play. Gabbs could hardly be accused of 'ungentlemanly conduct', after all, as this would be a gender speech crime.The theatre of the absurd is very serious in intent. 'Mollady' clearly invokes the 'Three Musketeers' - sadly I'm more fit for Porthos than D'Artangnan - perhaps your darkside Moll? Allan could no doubt beat out some swords (green, re-usable weaponry). We might go more Paulo Freire to the theatre of the oppressed.We might claim to be raising the absurdity of modern news trivia and lifestyles through our theatre of reverse expression. The world will know for sure when we launch Facilitator's plastics into the Van Allan belt (Al must be a 'Van' after all this time in Amsterdam) to test his materials for deep space flight.
On Friday, December 5, 2014 12:31:45 PM UTC, Molly wrote:Thank you three. This is better than buying a ticket to the theater of the absurd.
On Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:39:52 PM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:Nee nee and double nee after years of fine tuning we gave rge bidet fine tuned to the perfect temperature.. call me avwussy but no more skid marks..
Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: how close are any of us to the 'deep green'?--Even toilet paper and tissues are forbidden. Instead, its 60 employees use Geberit Aqua Clean 'shower toilets'. Shower toilets are a cross between a traditional toilet and a bidet.An integrated shower function is started by pressing a button, and a nozzle extends that sprays warm water. A dryer then removes the water.Moving to Geberit from bog paper demonstrates just how radical deep green is. Sue has just noted publication of my novel will be difficult once the toilet paper ban is in force.Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
On Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:44:03 PM UTC, archytas wrote:We will need a deep green HQ and to take on the vital core value of banning toilet paper - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2860696/ Would-work-office-banned- toilet-paper-Futuristic-firm- runs-paperless-workplace- powered-wind-water.html
On Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:26:00 PM UTC, archytas wrote:With Allan's new found detective abilities I sense the time is right to launch our version of 'The Four Just Men'. No doubt our resident feminists will see this as more evidence of our regression into boys' games, but there was always 'The Zoo Gang' for gender balance. I had Andrew in mind for our hitman, using his cover as an operative in the chocolate ant conspiracy. Molly is a banker for 'M' on name alone and Gabby for the role of 'The Needle', trained in Tibet to be the only person who really knows what is going on, like the horse in Cervantes. Don Johnson is a shoe in for the liaison role with US secret services. Tony's cover as starving artist and eco-terrorist (fruit speciality - though aren't bananas herbs?) is especially secure. Sadly, our sobriquet 'the red hand gang' was taken by 'Just William' some decades ago, so some work needed on that.Indeed, Just William gives us a platform for suitable gender roles:'Other recurring characters include Violet Elizabeth Bott, lisping spoiled daughter of the local nouveau riche millionaire (whose companionship William reluctantly endures, to prevent her carrying out her threat "I'll thcream and thcream 'till I'm thick"), and Joan Clive, the dark haired girl for whom William has a soft spot. Joan is sometimes considered a member of the Outlaws (the only girl entitled to this high privilege) and sometimes an "Outlaw ally" because she took a special oath. At one point she went away to boarding school, but continued to appear in William's adventures during her holidays.' How many of us will have to come out or turn gay to ensure statistical balance? We can be sure of the female roles as the books were written by Richmal Crompton Lamburn, a headmistress.Our biodegradable weaponry of banana skins and apple cores is clearly deep green (well done Tony). Gabby will have to take on the onerous dual roles of Violet and Joan, though in my interpretation has been playing them for years already.'
On Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:39:37 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:Update:Tossed my apple core out the window on my way to work this AM.Feeling good about doing my part to reduce landfill usage.Working on my oil furnace burner invention to reduce fuel consumption in the North East.
Not that far off in using my plastics for spaceships. Turns out, plastic is the best material to use for long space flights.
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