Re: Mind's Eye Re: the law of our own growth

The New Agers were all over Rilke and my Persian poet like a rash in the past - though the latter may have written in Greek patois.  Tgat egat sig probably appeared in his text, meaning the sound made after watching German opera. René Karl Wilhelm Johann Josef Maria Rilke - Rumi had a long name too and was into the simultaneous destruction and recreation of the soul.

A bit of poetry is good for people who can't do science.  At least Rumi might offer Whirling Dervishes rather than interminable opera about heroes buried in acorns for us to recover from poetry reading.  I like a lot of Sufi ideas.

I actually have a lot in common with RP's 'conservatism'.  "Love consists in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other" (Rilke from Brainyquote).  These days safe sex has lost the gentle touch of romance and loyalty (maybe autism) and become disease prevention.  Yet are we to look down on the promiscuous?

  

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 8:31:52 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

Fortunately for us a pendulum swing eventually reverses direction. I think it is everones responsibility to change responsibly. Our souls owe that to humanity.

I know Gabby does not like my sig shit in view of her eye candy..  tgat is tough shit as it us doing exactly egat I intended it to do .. it is my simple attempt to change away from the pendulum swing toward violence toward others. The best way of leadership lies in ones actions.

Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others

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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: the law of our own growth

Oppression of women is decidedly wrong , but for a married person to fall in love with another is not character. You fall in love with a girl and marry her then you fall in love with another woman , divorce your wife and marry again or just have an extra-marital affair is decidedly wrong. Even if your wife is ordinary in body and mind you still owe her loyalty and respect. There is no dearth of beautiful people ,

but to love and respect your own partner even of ordinary countenance is character. To be faithful to your society is character and if there are shortcomings in your society you should try to remove them and that is what has been  done by great people in all societies. Even ordinary people can try to remove the abuses in their society according to their capabilities , and to convert to other religions is escaping the duty of bettering your society. You owe your family and society a duty to work for its betterment and to convert is escaping from that duty.

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:55 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:

Once the realization is accepted that even between the closest human beings infinite distances continue, a wonderful living side by side can grow, if they succeed in loving the distance between them which makes it possible for each to see the other whole against the sky.  Fancy something a little different then Tony?  Shall we 'admire' men who want women to live in black bags?  Flowers rarely ask tough questions - Rilke was one.

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:27:22 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:

Healthy growth also requires a time or doing nothing.   

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