[Mind's Eye] Re: Accountability

I don't know how you avoid the self-interest of individuals/nations
and the natural imbalances of intelligence, talent, resources, etc.
The universal dialogue is probably age 12- the standard for
newspapers, now the basis of modern media. It is only recently that
information has gone global for most- does that make it more honest,
interesting, helpful, reliable?

On Oct 22, 12:48 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People 'escape' responsibility in fictitious ways all the time RP -
> though I agree that inevitably one can't.  I'm always saddened by
> those who stress we should have communism or capitalism and can't see
> there is some kind of loop.  They want to reduce everything to a kind
> of baby-talk more appropriate to sport locker rooms than responsible
> dialogue.  The escape from responsibility is into world-views that
> exclude the other and especially consequences for others.
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> On Oct 22, 6:26 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > To be held accountable for one's actions , doesn't it look scary when
> > you know you couldn't have done otherwise given your personality at
> > the given time and the circumstances. Yet we cannot escape
> > responsibility !
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> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/
> > > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through
> > > knowledge?
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> > > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are
> > >> accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world
> > >> you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a
> > >> puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as
> > >> it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are
> > >> accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence
> > >> that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's
> > >> world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless
> > >> society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on
> > >> your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for
> > >> your every action and inaction.
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> > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as
> > >> > fact... accountability is without meaning !
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> > >> > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and
> > >> > if I am aware of that personal freedom.
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> > >> > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man
> > >> >> who is acting ,  makes man accountable to man and society and not to
> > >> >> God.
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> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..."
> > >> >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative !
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> > >> >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary.
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> > >> >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and everything
> > >> >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary follows --
> > >> >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man and
> > >> >> >> > society.- Hide quoted text -
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