victims who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, are too
trusting and so on. What about the impact of natural catastophes and
wars? I suppose that catch-all of "collateral damage" kicks in when
it's needed for the "spin".
On Oct 22, 1:47 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Life is always full of cause and effects. Everyone is accountable for the
> effects caused by their actions,, even if you claim to have no choice....
> Allan
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> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > People 'escape' responsibility in fictitious ways all the time RP -
> > though I agree that inevitably one can't. I'm always saddened by
> > those who stress we should have communism or capitalism and can't see
> > there is some kind of loop. They want to reduce everything to a kind
> > of baby-talk more appropriate to sport locker rooms than responsible
> > dialogue. The escape from responsibility is into world-views that
> > exclude the other and especially consequences for others.
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> > On Oct 22, 6:26 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > To be held accountable for one's actions , doesn't it look scary when
> > > you know you couldn't have done otherwise given your personality at
> > > the given time and the circumstances. Yet we cannot escape
> > > responsibility !
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> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/
> > > > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through
> > > > knowledge?
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> > > > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are
> > > >> accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world
> > > >> you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a
> > > >> puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as
> > > >> it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are
> > > >> accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence
> > > >> that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's
> > > >> world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless
> > > >> society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on
> > > >> your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for
> > > >> your every action and inaction.
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> > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as
> > > >> > fact... accountability is without meaning !
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> > > >> > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and
> > > >> > if I am aware of that personal freedom.
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> > > >> > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man
> > > >> >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not
> > to
> > > >> >> God.
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> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..."
> > > >> >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative !
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> > > >> >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary.
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> > > >> >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >> >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and
> > everything
> > > >> >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary
> > follows --
> > > >> >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man
> > and
> > > >> >> >> > society.
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> |_D Allan
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