not come to (de)mean that, therefore, essence has no place before the
fait accompli of existence.
It's commonplace that the spirit(essence) fails before the
flesh(existence). But it also wins... because we do not have as many
rapes, if it otherwise !
In fact, say what we might, the number of rapes as % of population in
most societies is way lower compared to the barbaric savagery of
Medieval times, when the entire culture was shaped by rape being the
right of feudal overlords and very much an acceptable weapon in times
of war.
On Aug 20, 1:23 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe we are still having the Feudal - Colonial Opaque
> Authoritarian Model Of State even in democracies today. That effect is
> so overpowering, pervading, drawing businesses and oligarchs to its
> fold because of the massive largesse the State has a hand on, which in
> turn draw people to the same Master - Slave relationship the oligarchs
> have with the State.
>
> The need is to overturn this State is the Master and People are its
> Subjects arrangement. Maybe, we will succeed one day, especially in
> societies that have been cultured in non-violence and have come to
> accept it as a value. Coz the arrangement can never be upset by
> violence however much the US Americans may believe in the raison
> d'etre of their gun culture. People in China tried it but the State
> there does not accept non-violence as a value.
>
> Things are happening in India right now... but only because the State
> cannot dare to use violence against the huge turnout of non-violent
> protesters who, in essence, are saying that the People have a
> supremacy over the State, the Parliament and the Executive !
>
> It is all very much poised... and could go either way.
>
> On Aug 20, 11:57 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-loo...
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> > We had riots in England a couple of weeks ago. Our media was full of
> > people, including reporters, stating this was a new issue and
> > unprecedented. I did not believe this as I watched - though I did see
> > a great deal I recognised from GTA games. The above link to the
> > Economist makes use of a book by Pearson I read years ago - it casts a
> > very different view that our riots were really only history repeating
> > itself.
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> > I don't believe human thought can 'rid itself' of emotional response
> > (or should). I do believe we can do better than 'knee-jerk reactions'
> > - but I also believe this is quite difficult and beyond many people
> > left to their own devices. I believe our democracies are weak at the
> > moment and that this is because we can't argue very well - hence
> > politicians appeal to much that is populist and wrong using highly
> > dubious techniques.
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> > I'm sure I could identify the protocols that appeal to 'ignorant
> > Idols' that lead to situations of 'nopolitics' in our societies and
> > thus the rule of the very rich through "economics" in a way far more
> > centralised than any politburo.
>
> > I've pretty much given up on democracy. Teaching is very frustrating
> > because you want to encourage self-learning and resourceful human
> > beings and also know this is too much for most - democracy is
> > similar. The struggle is knowing this and not wanting to be elitist
> > and sneer at others. I succeed a bit in 'adventures with ideas' but
> > the same mistakes in reaction crop up time and time and time again in
> > wider social action.
>
> > I wonder if outing the protocols of the dreary positions people take
> > in reaction could help us actually find dialogue?
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