unawares. Of course, death is no picnic.
On Aug 22, 10:31 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i like that phrase..... future sellers.... how wonderful you can be with
> words..... future sellers indeed.......
> but its sad that children will one day be children no more........
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> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > God wants to see strong children who know what they know and therefore do
> > not fall prey to future sellers.
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> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> Hey Gabs,
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> >> Wot? Now you have confussed me again.
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> >> What are you talking baout now?
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> >> On Aug 22, 1:52 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Argh, Lee, you fell for Molly's imagery and forgot to put enough wax
> >> into
> >> > your ears!
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> >> > Do you remember how proud you felt when your younger son apologized for
> >> > being selfish over not wanting to lend the PS3 game to his brother to
> >> take
> >> > it out of the house? Although his saying no in the beginning was
> >> probably
> >> > the most sensible reaction considering the experiences he had made and
> >> had
> >> > heard of up to that day?
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> >> > Seeing Rome burn and asking oneself what does this mean for me and mine
> >> > could have been the incentive to grab the bucket and extinguish the
> >> fire!
> >> > Which would have been a very social thing to do at that time!
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> >> > Another moral: Give your children time to find their own words for
> >> > their/they're meanings of our brandings.
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> >> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
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> >> > > Because as a speices we are all rather insulare. We can't help but
> >> > > think and act according to 'how it effects us' as individuals, as
> >> > > small family units.
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> >> > > Instead of seing Rome burning and asking what does this mean for
> >> > > humanity we see it burn and ask instead, what does this mean for me
> >> > > and mine.
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> >> > > On Aug 20, 1:51 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Creating order from chaos requires entering into the chaos. We are
> >> > > > often too content to rest in outdated but comfortable social orders.
> >> > > > The balance of individual and consensus reality becomes infinite in
> >> > > > mutual creativity. Finding and maintaining that point in experience
> >> > > > is a real challenge. Once found, old orders fall away, new orders
> >> are
> >> > > > created, the circles of familiarity become smaller and at the same
> >> > > > time eternal as folks capable of sharing the unseen unite in action.
> >> > > > Rome burns, and a new order emerges. Yet all we can see or feel is
> >> > > > Rome burning. Why?
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> >> > > > On Aug 20, 2:57 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-loo.
> >> > > ..
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> >> > > > > We had riots in England a couple of weeks ago. Our media was full
> >> of
> >> > > > > people, including reporters, stating this was a new issue and
> >> > > > > unprecedented. I did not believe this as I watched - though I did
> >> see
> >> > > > > a great deal I recognised from GTA games. The above link to the
> >> > > > > Economist makes use of a book by Pearson I read years ago - it
> >> casts a
> >> > > > > very different view that our riots were really only history
> >> repeating
> >> > > > > itself.
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> >> > > > > I don't believe human thought can 'rid itself' of emotional
> >> response
> >> > > > > (or should). I do believe we can do better than 'knee-jerk
> >> reactions'
> >> > > > > - but I also believe this is quite difficult and beyond many
> >> people
> >> > > > > left to their own devices. I believe our democracies are weak at
> >> the
> >> > > > > moment and that this is because we can't argue very well - hence
> >> > > > > politicians appeal to much that is populist and wrong using highly
> >> > > > > dubious techniques.
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> >> > > > > I'm sure I could identify the protocols that appeal to 'ignorant
> >> > > > > Idols' that lead to situations of 'nopolitics' in our societies
> >> and
> >> > > > > thus the rule of the very rich through "economics" in a way far
> >> more
> >> > > > > centralised than any politburo.
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> >> > > > > I've pretty much given up on democracy. Teaching is very
> >> frustrating
> >> > > > > because you want to encourage self-learning and resourceful human
> >> > > > > beings and also know this is too much for most - democracy is
> >> > > > > similar. The struggle is knowing this and not wanting to be
> >> elitist
> >> > > > > and sneer at others. I succeed a bit in 'adventures with ideas'
> >> but
> >> > > > > the same mistakes in reaction crop up time and time and time again
> >> in
> >> > > > > wider social action.
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> >> > > > > I wonder if outing the protocols of the dreary positions people
> >> take
> >> > > > > in reaction could help us actually find dialogue?- Hide quoted
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