performance management in organisations, to the banksterism of CDOs
(and the rest) and on to the way politicians conduct themselves it is
based on 'performance' as acting. For transparency we need less
accounting - but for the accounts to be available to public scrutiny -
this leads to privacy considerations.
Before any technical consideration though, we should look at the
brutal facts of people being kept poor and a tiny few getting sickly
rich and who hangs on to the tail-coats of the rich as a nomenclature
(the next 30%). This is animal living in my view, not human. The
accumulated riches do not translate into organising poor people so
they can self-sustain - think how much we could grow doing this. The
money put in, even in micro-finance, is fraudulently abstracted to the
rich and their entourages and then further burdens the tax payer with
debt. Audit methods need to be very sophisticated, as they are in
good construction site management, to ensure proper build standards
(and look how often this is flouted).
The big problem to overcome is generally that of false claims made by
people one cannot challenge to show and tell. We are no more allowed
to set a team of 'untouchables' (and remember Eliot Ness wrote his own
myth) on the banksters than on Mugabe and his ilk. I would say that
the first step is to prevent the shadow banking system having any
credibility and make transactions with it a criminal offence. Britain
is a hub of this - and capital flight centres on London. Given that
most loans to third world leaders go wrong, it's impossible to believe
the banks aren't complicit - just ask yourself if you'd lend the
Mugabe's of this world a bean - so why would an experienced banker if
he was really accountable for the performance of the loan? The
banksters get some return and hide the thieving via 'Swiss banking' -
which is largely US and UK (etc.) or we would just stop it.
We need to start focusing knowledge and resources instead of money -
money should be in a primitive banking system that is transparent.
The deep problem is that money makes money in volatile speculations
(bubbles) and through illegal activities (drugs etc.).and wealth is
not produced from real work aimed at building communities - lurking
behind this thinking are spectres of fascism and Sino-Soviet
dictatorships that we need to build into the thinking to prevent
them. My view is that organised crime is winning and has been the
real theory-in-use of western capitalism, inherited from the
imperialism that is all our history. We need to replace greed as the
motivator and the existential great leader as anything other than a
non-starter. Competition needs to be seen in a different way and
there is a part-model in sport, though a bad model obscures a good one
in this.
On Sep 8, 7:36 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree. When laws create a democratic institution centred on
> people's interest, corruption complaint and harassment grievance... it
> becomes a means through which the people can bring the govt to book,
> make it accountable and even punish it through verdicts of courts of
> law.
>
> The Law on Right To Information is an example... it's done wonders.
> That's the India experience, of course. Other countries would have
> theirs.
>
> Wiki's been very, very good... more because it exposed duplicitous
> behaviour and double-speak hitherto considered very much as the done
> thing. But there's much much more of tech applications that need to be
> adopted... online surveys and referendums are one, suo moto gauging of
> public sentiment and people aligning themselves against opaque,
> unresponsive govts on issues and cases is another, ERP adaptation for
> public admn projects is a third... both accounting and reporting, and
> intervention. There is much that can be done with speed, honesty and
> cost-effectiveness.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> DarkwaterBlight wrote:
> > Awareness is not enough but rather, a start and only scratching the
> > surface at this point as Archytas points out. Wiki Leaks is a good
> > example of using thechnology for public awareness and accountability
> > however unscrupulous thier means. Passing more laws leaves a bad taste
> > in my mouth when I say it so I'm not quite sure that's an answer.
>
> > On Sep 7, 10:47 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Been a case here last week... his palatial house is confiscated and
> > > turned into a school !
>
> > > The proposed ombudsman bill has provision of confiscation of private
> > > property. Which, of course, the parliamentarians and bureaucrats are
> > > very averse to passing ! But they have no option with people awake to
> > > what it is that they want in the bill.
>
> > > On Sep 7, 11:58 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Criminal activity is extremely hard to start as the politicians which are
> > > > the core of over the years I watched it deteriorate. but unfortunately the
> > > > worst of it started with Reaganomics. where the foot hole was gained. now
> > > > you have take on the spin doctors of Washington and in Europe but here they
> > > > are not quite as bad yet.
> > > > To change it would require laws to be pasted that would go against
> > > > the interest of big money and then enforce them stringently.. and when
> > > > attacking the problem it has to become where if you are found involved in
> > > > illegal activities you lose everything and your immediate family, The idea
> > > > is to prevent them from dispersing it else whee.. and it needs to include
> > > > corporations.. if a corporation is found in illegal activities the
> > > > president vice presidents and the entire board of directors need to lose
> > > > everything.. then when the threat of lose of their personal wealth you
> > > > will see the change quite quickly..
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Some indication of how hard Vam's project is can be found at
>
> > > > >http://www.economics.jku.at/members/Schneider/files/publications/OrgC...
> > > > > - though I think the amount of organised criminal money is much higher
> > > > > than the near trillion dollars shown in this research. Finance has
> > > > > become a shell game with 50 shells played by a quintet of squid.
> > > > > Balance sheets are now highly transparent but irrelevant to what goes
> > > > > on in large companies and banks. We have to make business transparent
> > > > > and any accounting that prevents this criminal. I suspect this would
> > > > > collapse financial services and retailing.
>
> > > > > On Sep 6, 11:02 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Would I have been a cop for them Gabby! Sadly, the murkier bit I did
> > > > > > only made it more obvious I was on the wrong side. Corruption is
> > > > > > winning.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 6, 8:23 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://transparency.org/
>
> > > > > > > Transparency International, the global civil society organisation
> > > > > leading
> > > > > > > the fight against corruption, brings people together in a powerful
> > > > > worldwide
> > > > > > > coalition to end the devastating impact of corruption on men, women and
> > > > > > > children around the world.
> > > > > > > TI's mission is to create change towards a world free of corruption.
>
> > > > > > > Transparency International challenges the inevitability of corruption,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > offers hope to its victims. Since its founding in 1993, TI has played a
> > > > > lead
> > > > > > > role in improving the lives of millions around the world by building
> > > > > > > momentum for the anti-corruption movement. TI raises awareness and
> > > > > > > diminishes apathy and tolerance of corruption, and devises and
> > > > > implements
> > > > > > > practical actions to address it.
>
> > > > > > > Transparency International is a global network including more than 90
> > > > > > > locally established national chapters and chapters-in-formation. These
> > > > > > > bodies fight corruption in the national arena in a number of ways. They
> > > > > > > bring together relevant players from government, civil society,
> > > > > business and
> > > > > > > the media to promote transparency in elections, in public
> > > > > administration, in
> > > > > > > procurement and in business. TI's global network of chapters and
> > > > > contacts
> > > > > > > also use advocacy campaigns to lobby governments to implement
> > > > > > > anti-corruption reforms.
>
> > > > > > > Politically non-partisan, TI does not undertake investigations of
> > > > > alleged
> > > > > > > corruption or expose individual cases, but at times will work in
> > > > > coalition
> > > > > > > with organisations that do.
>
> > > > > > > TI has the skills, tools, experience, expertise and broad participation
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > fight corruption on the ground, as well as through global and regional
> > > > > > > initiatives.
>
> > > > > > > Now in its second decade, Transparency International is maturing,
> > > > > > > intensifying and diversifying its fight against corruption.
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Technology for Transparency Network - Final Report : Global mapping
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > technology for transparency and accountability.
>
> > > > > > > >http://bit.ly/qHPWXQ
>
> > > > > > > > - Bringing projects and interventions to scale.
>
> > > > > > > > - Bringing citizens closer to the policymaking process through new
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > improved channels of participation as well as citizen monitoring of
> > > > > > > > government.
>
> > > > > > > > - Identifying policy priorities and service delivery challenges
> > > > > > > > through 'data mashing' and other visualisation and data manipulation
> > > > > > > > techniques of both government and private datasets.
>
> > > > > > > > - Improving the efficiency of civil society organisations working in
> > > > > > > > the transparency and accountability space through adoption of best
> > > > > > > > practice technology platforms.
>
> > > > --
> > > > (
> > > > )
> > > > |_D Allan
>
> > > > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who has ever ruined your
> > > > day and may their arms be two short to scratch. Then you can have a good
> > > > day.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
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