[Mind's Eye] Re: Why Has Allan Been Barred From The Group ?

What would Socrates do? Consider Alcibiades.

Allan- if you are able to read this from your isolated perch, thank
you again for your initial welcome and advice and I hope you and
ornamentalmind can resolve your differences. This furor flew by
without a ruffle.

On Sep 15, 5:43 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> gabby, thanks for the response. That is what I had guessed about you
> and Vam but wanted to be sure since you brought it up.
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> Allan is banned from Minds Eye.
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> On Sep 15, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > No, Orn, not feeling attacked by Vam but being attacked by Vam. But I am
> > able to stand my man here, thank you.
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> > What is Allan's current posting status, is what we'd like to know. Is he
> > being banned, set on moderation or have only some of his posts been deleted?
> > Thank you for providing us with factual information to help us increase the
> > level objectivity.
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> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com
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> > > wrote:
> > > Moderation is and always has been subjective. It also is not
> > > democratic no matter what pretense or trappings are added to it.
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> > > gabby, if you feel attacked by vam and want action, let me know
> > > specifically and I'll address it. I use judgement when it comes to
> > > individual cases.
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> > > Vam, yes it is serious and I've never taken the task/responsibility
> > > lightly.
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> > > Also Vam, as egalitarian as your suggested method appears to be we are
> > > not about trials here.
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> > > On Sep 15, 9:41 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I believe banning is a serious matter.
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> > > > I really have not kept track of what Allan has said or done. In the
> > > > event, I feel there should be a separate thread titled : Why so-and-so
> > > > deserves to be banned, by the Group rules !
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> > > > The person can then be clearly charged, allowed to respond, and a call
> > > > taken by the Moderator in full public view. Shouldn't be difficult.
> > > > After all you wouldn't be doing it every month.
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> > > > On Sep 15, 8:24 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Vam, I deleted the offending posts. Allan himself knew he had gone
> > > > > over the line and said so in one of his remaining posts. He followed
> > > > > that one with more unprovoked direct attacks (self admitted/defined)
> > > > > upon me. He knew what he was doing and what the result would be.
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> > > > > Evolution, freedom, acceptance and toleration include self
> > > > > responsibility.
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> > > > > On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > If true, as Allan himself informs me, the act seems disproportionate,
> > > > > > a result of disbalanced mental process, and plain gross, as in
> > > > > > absolute unfit for a Group comprising of such evolved members who
> > > > > > believe in freedom, acceptance and toleration.
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