" Y is #Hinduism NOT a religion ? 1/3 It doesn't ASSURE salvation, as
religions do. It says it's up2 us thru action, devotion, yoga n
jnana !
" Y is #Hinduism NOT a religion ? 2/3 It doesn't BELIEVE in one
defined ideology, as religions do. It believes in everything under the
sun.
" Y is #Hinduism NOT a religion ? 3/3 It doesn't CONVERT to add
others, as religions do. It exhorts them to follow their own well, in
truth."
Now test the above by the lexicon meaning of " promote "
1. Further the progress of (something, esp. a cause, venture, or aim);
support or actively encourage.
2. Give publicity to (a product, organization, or venture) so as to
increase sales or public awareness.
The FaceBook entry was a copy of post in this thread :
" Monotheistic Religions, as they are, do three things :
1 Assure salvation, the power for which is entirely with another
2 Demand Belief in a defined presentation or ideology
3 Convert others to their fold through material lure, physical and
mental fear or reward.
"Atheistic disciplines, pantheistic and polytheistic ways of living do
none of these. They are therefore not religions as the people in the
West and Middle East believe in and understand !"
Gabby, I normally avoid paying any attention to your posts. Your
trailing comment only confirms the waste and warp your observations
normally are.
On the other hand, your comment only promotes yourself, since it adds
nothing to the discussion !
gabbydott wrote:
> Vam promoted Hinduism in this context on facebook.
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Neil by your standard then "chimps do atheism"
> > What a truism chimps have no God not even the concept of God
> > whether you like it or not atheism is a promoted religions
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:39 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Chimps do religion.
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 1:04 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Sadly that is very true, I look at the man know as Jesus the son of
> >> Mary
> >> > not Jesus the christ.. although you have to modify a few words like
> >> changing
> >> > "son of God" to "beloved of God" and dump the harry potter story of his
> >> > birth I think you can see the Dharma by which he lived his life..
> >> > To me that is what is important.. not some magical formula.. A person
> >> is
> >> > ultimately accountable for how they live this life and I would not be
> >> > counting on another go round to live a better life.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Agreed.
> >> >
> >> > > But, in religious organisations and practices, "the crap people have
> >> > > added to get their desired goals and their need to be important." is
> >> > > most prominent.
> >> >
> >> > > Allan H wrote:
> >> > > > Vam if dharma is as you define it that is what all major religions
> >> are
> >> > > all
> >> > > > about minus the crap people have added to get their desired goals
> >> and
> >> > > their
> >> > > > need to be important.
> >> > > > Allan
> >> >
> >> > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > > Religions, eastern or western, IS NOT Dharma. [ oh yes, there are
> >> > > > > religions in east ! ]
> >> >
> >> > > > > Dharma is moral, ethical and truthful living. Not all religions,
> >> and
> >> > > > > not everything in any religion, is.
> >> >
> >> > > > > Allan H wrote:
> >> > > > > > Vam you posted this:
> >> > > > > > 1 Assure salvation, the power for which is entirely with
> >> another
> >> > > > > > 2 Demand Belief in a defined presentation of thought and
> >> ideology
> >> > > > > > 3 Convert others to their fold through material lure, physical
> >> and
> >> > > > > > mental fear and reward.
> >> > > > > > then you are trying do convince me that dharma is not effected
> >> by it
> >> > > yet
> >> > > > > as
> >> > > > > > i look at the eastren religions I really see little or no
> >> difference,
> >> > > > > just
> >> > > > > > symantics
> >> > > > > > Allan
> >> >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > Again :
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > " ... one can quit or outgrow religion but not "dharma !" "
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > The word religion as I have used is previously indicated.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > The traditions Molly speaks of are those that have largely
> >> outgrown
> >> > > > > > > religion ( in the sense I have used the word ).
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > Vam wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > A post elsewhere... which cud be juxtaposed with thoughts
> >> > > generally
> >> > > > > > > > expressed here :
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > " ... the word " religion " itself is a Western construct,
> >> > > meaning as
> >> > > > > > > > it came to be practiced by people - looking for salvation,
> >> > > believing
> >> > > > > > > > what they were told, and launching on their conversion
> >> drives
> >> > > > > > > > everywhere they went with their gun and swords and recycled
> >> loot.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > " Dharma is a totally different construct... the whole
> >> universe
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > > > > values and truths in and of which all beings are born, in
> >> and of
> >> > > > > which
> >> > > > > > > > they live, in and of which they depart, and in and of which
> >> they
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > > > reborn. It is life and living itself, which exhorts us to do
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > needful and the right, even while leaving us with the
> >> freedom and
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > > choice to do otherwise, as we please but with their
> >> respective
> >> > > > > > > > consequences.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > " Dharma is life itself, and the way of living in accord to
> >> > > universal
> >> > > > > > > > values and truths."
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > ornamentalmind wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > Yet, are those traditions in any way strictly
> >> monotheistic?
> >> > > Most
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > > I am aware of do not make such a claim; although as you
> >> say
> >> > > some
> >> > > > > do.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > When it comes to the presentation of an argument, the
> >> terms
> >> > > used
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > > often important as Vam knows. Making a claim for all cases
> >> in
> >> > > such
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > > case is asking for rebuttal. Of course, that may have been
> >> his
> >> > > > > intent!
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 4:16 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > > I would disagree in that there are mystical traditions
> >> to
> >> > > many
> >> > > > > > > eastern
> >> > > > > > > > > > and western religions that do none of those three.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 6:34 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Monotheistic Religions, as they are, do three things :
> >> > > > > > > > > > > 1 Assure salvation, the power for which is entirely
> >> with
> >> > > > > another
> >> > > > > > > > > > > 2 Demand Belief in a defined presentation of thought
> >> and
> >> > > > > ideology
> >> > > > > > > > > > > 3 Convert others to their fold through material lure,
> >> > > physical
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > > > mental fear and reward.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Atheistic disciplines, pantheistic and polytheistic
> >> ways of
> >> > > > > living
> >> > > > > > > do
> >> > > > > > > > > > > none of these.
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > They are therefore not religions as the people in the
> >> West
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > Middle
> >> > > > > > > > > > > East believe in and understand !
> >> >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > (
> >> > > > > > )
> >> > > > > > |_D Allan
> >> >
> >> > > > > > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who has ever
> >> ruined
> >> > > > > your
> >> > > > > > day and may their arms be two short to scratch. Then you can
> >> have a
> >> > > good
> >> > > > > > day.
> >> >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > (
> >> > > > )
> >> > > > |_D Allan
> >> >
> >> > > > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who ever has ever
> >> > > ruined
> >> > > > your day and may their arms be to short to scratch. Then you can
> >> have a
> >> > > good
> >> > > > day.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > (
> >> > )
> >> > |_D Allan
> >> >
> >> > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who ever has ever
> >> ruined
> >> > your day and may their arms be to short to scratch. Then you can have a
> >> good
> >> > day.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
> >
> > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who ever has ever ruined
> > your day and may their arms be to short to scratch. Then you can have a good
> > day.
> >
> >
> >
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