is temporary, that you two can come to a mutual
agreement/reconciliation on this matter. There is a third party I
believe to this and hope that they too can reconcile and benefit from
the diversity and vigorous wealth of knowledge from the M-E community.
Best Regards
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:56 PM, ornamentalmind
<ornsmindseyespam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Vam, you don't like it. I get that. This is between Allan and me. He
> is banned from this group.
>
> On Sep 16, 9:52 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What are the specifics ?
>>
>> Which are the hyperbole ?
>>
>> Allan, my friend ? I do not even know him well.
>>
>> Loyalty ? What's loyalty got to do with this ?
>>
>> You've taken a decision, where you were on trial ! Remember that.
>>
>> On Sep 16, 9:48 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > Vam, your hyperbole is laudable especially when coming to the aid of a
>> > friend who is perceived to have been wronged. Loyalty has its place.
>> > The specifics in this case fly against your stance though.
>>
>> > On Sep 16, 5:57 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Sep 16, 1:31 am, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Moderation is and always has been subjective. It also is not
>> > > > democratic no matter what pretense or trappings are added to it.
>>
>> > > Subjectivity can include emotional instability and rank egotistic
>> > > stupidity. But we all work at learning to be on guard against that
>> > > because IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR. Especially Moderation of a
>> > > Group... with members who are pretty much evolved and conscientious on
>> > > their own. This Group has had the hallmarks of such great members...
>>
>> > > I wasn't meaning that the Moderation process be " Democratic." But it
>> > > certainly needs to be open and transparent.
>>
>> > > > gabby, if you feel attacked by vam and want action, let me know
>> > > > specifically and I'll address it. I use judgement when it comes to
>> > > > individual cases.
>>
>> > > Nothing in your judgement, Mr Moderator, can force me to give ' value
>> > > ' or assign so much ' worth ' to particular posts. I actually do not
>> > > give much value to Gabby's posts and actually assign much worth to
>> > > them. And I felt it necessary to say as much, when I did.
>>
>> > > > Vam, yes it is serious and I've never taken the task/responsibility
>> > > > lightly.
>>
>> > > Lightly ? No, OM, I do suggest you take the matter heavily. The
>> > > seriousness implies that the Moderator CANNOT be wrong in his
>> > > judgement in the context, even if he has to give the offender the
>> > > benefit of doubt everytime, all the time. As can be seen, you are in
>> > > absolute minority of ONE, from the reactions on this thread. Perhaps,
>> > > you need to look at your subjectivity...
>>
>> > > > Also Vam, as egalitarian as your suggested method appears to be we are
>> > > > not about trials here.
>>
>> > > Then you most definitely are not taking the matter " seriously " at
>> > > all. IT IS YOU WHO IS ON TRIAL everytime you have to take a banning
>> > > decision !
>>
>> > > > On Sep 15, 9:41 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > > > I believe banning is a serious matter.
>>
>> > > > > I really have not kept track of what Allan has said or done. In the
>> > > > > event, I feel there should be a separate thread titled : Why so-and-so
>> > > > > deserves to be banned, by the Group rules !
>>
>> > > > > The person can then be clearly charged, allowed to respond, and a call
>> > > > > taken by the Moderator in full public view. Shouldn't be difficult.
>> > > > > After all you wouldn't be doing it every month.
>>
>> > > > > On Sep 15, 8:24 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > > > > > Vam, I deleted the offending posts. Allan himself knew he had gone
>> > > > > > over the line and said so in one of his remaining posts. He followed
>> > > > > > that one with more unprovoked direct attacks (self admitted/defined)
>> > > > > > upon me. He knew what he was doing and what the result would be.
>>
>> > > > > > Evolution, freedom, acceptance and toleration include self
>> > > > > > responsibility.
>>
>> > > > > > On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > If true, as Allan himself informs me, the act seems disproportionate,
>> > > > > > > a result of disbalanced mental process, and plain gross, as in
>> > > > > > > absolute unfit for a Group comprising of such evolved members who
>> > > > > > > believe in freedom, acceptance and toleration.
>>
>> > > > > > > I sure would like to hear the Moderator speak on this matter.- Hide quoted text -
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