spiritual than rules for a way o living might allow us to get to. I'm
easily swayed into 'economic or material' thinking on much others
consider spiritual as I feel pretty sure over focus on the individual
rather than person is leaving us spiritually bereft.
On Oct 26, 8:17 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:57 PM, AJ Fogle <ajfoglem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi thanks for responding. I agree with the idea that to be certain of
> > any religious certainty is impossible at least in our current place
> > and time in the cosmos. However there are certain ideas or even
> > fellings within self that have some basis for knowing. Though this too
> > could simply be a figment of a powerful mind too. That is why I wanted
> > to investigate what we as a people have discovered as fact through the
> > sciences of today. These can help to place ones feet upon more of a
> > responsible approach in a journey through lifes biggest questions.
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> > God notions are much too vague or immense of subject matter for me and
> > I simply want to understand the smaller steps in the journey.
> > Personally, I don't really like "religion" as a practice or way of
> > life. I think it sells the human potential very short, not to mention
> > makes us a part of some rather dark and barbarious history. Control
> > and rules for conduct are important to a civilized world, but applying
> > that to belief and potential in the ways of self or spirit is counter
> > intuative. IMHO
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> > On Sep 30, 6:06 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi AJ and welcome. I don't do professional philosophy but the stuff
> > > is sometimes useful in my work. There's a lot of the philosophy of
> > > religion about and no denial of god as far as I'm aware - it's more a
> > > case that belief or otherwise in certainty on the topic is a
> > > rationalist fantasy. As a scientist I don't find god notions very
> > > useful and think much of the myths around them are damaging. This
> > > still leaves me pondering what the universe and our part in it is
> > > about.
> > > The god particle is a metaphor for the quest for more and more effort
> > > in particle physics - I think the name arises from Leon Leyderman
> > > Last time I heard it was supposedly the Higgs' boson - a field that
> > > gives mass.
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> > > Your post will have been delayed by moderation - something we use to
> > > keep spam and a few other things out. Please fell free to
> > > contribute. I'll go back and press the right key so your posts will
> > > come directly to the group.
> > > Neil
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> > > On Oct 1, 12:45 am, AJ Fogle <ajfoglem...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Hello all. I am new to the group and am interested in talking about
> > > > these deeper topics with anyone who will allow it. I have so many
> > > > questions that need affirmation as well. One for example I thought of
> > > > from reading the God particle post. In it someone posted that we can
> > > > not measure it, because we are actually in it. I do not disagree, but
> > > > was wondering if there is any evidence to support the idea that space
> > > > is actually intelligent or perhaps more in line with intelligent
> > > > energy fields both receptive and productive? I guess what I am most
> > > > in need of would be the current science theory in many areas of
> > > > study. I would very much enjoy these types of study and
> > > > conversation.
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> > > > Secondly, does anyone want to consider the fractal in the pondering of
> > > > God and spirit? I was under the impression that most philosophers
> > > > exclude the idea of there being a God or spirit, although this is not
> > > > an educated impression and perhaps it is wrong entirely. I put this
> > > > question out there in order to see if there are enough deep thinkers.
> > > > with the extra time available, to address some of these issues with
> > > > me. Anyone?
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> > > > Another post here mentioned something about the "heating condition of
> > > > the universe" and well quite frankly, I must hear more on this topic
> > > > as well. I have had my own ideas on that subject and I have a feeling
> > > > the information will simply validate those ideas. However, I do not
> > > > know why this heating is happening, do you?
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> > > > Ok, I do not want to annoy any of you so I will stop with these vague,
> > > > but meaningful, to me, questions for you all. With a sincere hope to
> > > > have someone, or many, open in conversation to me. I am honest and
> > > > sincere and turned on by intelligence .. I hope that isn't offensive
> > > > to any of you either. I have no problems with being told I am wrong
> > > > and will gladly consider the evidence that proves the statement.
> > > > Personally, I find the thought of walking around believing in
> > > > something that is based in error, very upsetting and welcome fact and
> > > > truth, with open arms. Hopefully this will put you at ease and somehow
> > > > give you some insight into me as well.
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> > > > Finally... Consider this.....The purpose of life, the reason we are
> > > > here ... the meaning of it all... is simply to BECOME LOVE. Think
> > > > about it and let me know what you think. I am very interested in
> > > > hearing what you have to say. Thanks for your time. Be blessed.- Hide
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