is very different in Jewish script than the modern view, and many
religious terms concern debt and escape from it. I agree to some
extent with Molly that we seem born into some wider knowledge system
and the idea of knowledge as an entity is an interesting tack. I
don't go with the story of the fall though - but if we think about my
grandson, I'm sort of wanting his fall into knowledge and self-
reliance.
The terms always get tricky - for who is more self-reliant in this
world - the skilled man unemployed or the banker who causes that?
On Nov 4, 3:13 pm, Edward Mason <masonedward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Value of KnowledgeFirst published Tue Aug 21, 2007; substantive
> revision Wed Nov 2, 2011Value of knowledge has always been a central
> topic within epistemology. An important question to address, which can
> be traced right back to Plato's Meno, is: what is it about knowledge
> (if anything) that makes it more valuable than mere true belief?
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> Hello everyone! Seems to me one easier way to perceive Knowledge to a
> certain Truth, would be to understand the value of the Hebrew's
> rendition of the Term, while being mindful that Moses was Learned in
> All The Knowledge of The Egyptians. According to some Hebrew legends
> Knowledge is not an item. It is an Entity. One of the three main
> principles of existence as we know it to be. Knowledge, Wisdom,
> Understanding. By these did YHVH establish the Heavens and the Earth.
> These are the three main properties that comprise The Tree Of Life!
> Heaven! Except in our case and age we suffer the imbalance of
> Knowledge having increased with Man beyond the red-zone. So many run
> to and fro.. Also, bear in mind that the fall of Adam & Eve was that
> they ate from the Tree Of Knowledge; They saw a difference between
> (gained more Knowledge) Good & Evil.......
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:38 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The question why knowledge is distinctively valuable has an important
> > historical precedent in Plato's Meno in which Socrates raises the
> > question of why knowledge is more valuable than mere true belief.
> > Initially, we might appeal to the fact that knowledge appears to be of
> > more practical use than true belief in order to mark this difference
> > in value, but, as Socrates notes, this claim is far from obvious on
> > closer inspection. After all, a true belief about the correct way to
> > Larissa is surely of just as much practical use as knowledge of the
> > way to Larissa—both will get us to our destination. Given that we
> > clearly do value knowledge more than mere true belief, the fact that
> > there is no obvious explanation of why this should be so creates a
> > problem. We will call the issue of why knowledge is more valuable than
> > mere true belief, the Meno problem.
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> > You can get the rest here -http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/knowledge-value/
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> > I somehow doubt I will be causing much mouse clicking in posting the
> > link! I did some work on knowledge justification and value whilst
> > bored out of my tree, recovering from a serious injury. I was
> > discovering most of academic study is 'witterpiss for wuckfits' at the
> > time. There's a big snag in the Meno problem in that it restricts us
> > to argument not much informed by science. We could sit down all day
> > trying to define knowledge, which might be nice under the Greek sun
> > with some Rakis, local beer and imported coffee. No one has defined
> > knowledge - rather as we don't have a precise decimal for pi. There
> > are, of course, many definitions.
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> > There are lots of teasers like this in philosophy. My take on this
> > is :
> > 1.there are some things I believe true and have tested scientifically
> > or in mathematical proof - these I trust as knowledge
> > 2. there are some things I think true and can't do the above with.
> > 3. etc. etc. on what I consider reliable or barking.
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> > we worry too much about this kind of stuff and not enough about the
> > issues of the condition of ignorance.


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