People are strange, they make the most curious expressions when I
laugh at hell and look hurt by their heavens. Lately it has crossed
over more, many times people cross my path and seem to pause as if
studying an unexpected creature. Somehow I don't think wearing an "My
INFJ is broken!" badge (with the acronym inside a little brain
picture) would help matters. LOL
I really enjoy seeing your signature during the week and read it on
every post, it never fails to somehow lighten my weights at least a
little with truth. :) The rest is good too of course!
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very true Molly I think unfortunately many of the people who should be
> hanging their heads in shame,, think they are the coolest.
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "The problem will probably come from shame and we will separate
>> ourselves each creating our own heaven or hell, "
>>
>> It is a problem in life, not just death.
>> On Nov 9, 4:06 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You amaze me Neil with your knowledge, showing me just how little I
>> > know,
>> > it also reminds me
>> > that there really are no new ideas that some one else has not thought of
>> > before people just rewrite it trying to express it clearer. this
>> > solipsistsis interesting including the zombie part lol earlier
>> > discussion.
>> >
>> > maybe it is not as foolish as it might seem, to me and y weird
>> > preception
>> > of things in a way is just that.. As I see the world as just that the
>> > object is to rejoin the creator (in death or in rebirth or how ever you
>> > see
>> > it,)
>> >
>> > On our departing of this world their is and accounting of how we lived,
>> > responding to our abilities.. when separating from this life there is
>> > an
>> > accounting where we recall our actions of our entire lives.. and
>> > also
>> > once again understand what it takes to be one with the Creator The
>> > problem
>> > will probably come from shame and we will separate ourselves each
>> > creating
>> > our own heaven or hell,
>> >
>> > I really have no idea how it happens or just what happens just that
>> > something happens.. .
>> >
>> > Many beliefs have to much similarity.. even my thought are as if they
>> > are
>> > all ready known. To each belongs their own existence. I think the greedy
>> > will really give themselves a surprise some how I do not think it will
>> > be
>> > pleasant..
>> > I know weird
>> > Allan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, November 9, 2011, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > They intercourse the paradigmatic synergy up paradox junction Allan.
>> > > K Dick once wrote of a 'group of solipsists' who treated any not in
>> > > the group as objects of their own mind's creation. I've always
>> > > thought the aim of materialism is that point where it hardly matters,
>> > > so we can get on with being spiritual in leisure space created by
>> > > sharing what work needs doing. Look at the way we could ban Chazwin
>> > > and so on and you can see 'manners' at work in a corrosive way - they
>> > > never quite ban poverty do they?
>> >
>> > > On Nov 9, 8:02 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Maybe the worst prisons around like the ones use for gangs
>> > >> but a good idea..
>> >
>> > >> oddly though I think if I am right they will have a real surprise
>> > >> coming
>> > >> at their death especially when they find there is no wealth and the
>> > >> world
>> > >> they know disappears,, I know it sounds funny they will create their
>> > >> own
>> > >> hell far beyond what you and I can imagine,,
>> >
>> > >> If one is supposed to live a spiritual life.. how does a person
>> > >> justify
>> > a
>> > >> life of material gain at the expense of others?
>> > >> Allan
>> >
>> > >> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:01 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > Many of my scientific colleagues believe the kind of bureaucrats we
>> > >> > have to suffer deserve long prison sentences - then we'll hang
>> > >> > them!
>> >
>> > >> > On Nov 8, 8:55 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > to limits moneys access to politics is what is going to have to
>> > happen,,
>> > >> > > not allowing corporations involvement at all.. but like the
>> > >> > > problem
>> > will
>> > >> > > be greed and the need for secrecy. the politicians will not like
>> > having
>> > >> > > ever word recorded and every word said to them,, and extreme
>> > penalties
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > > violating the rules including prison time for all involved.. and
>> > loss of
>> > >> > > all money for family members and relatives especially if the
>> > >> > > source
>> > of
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > > money is the person violating the laws
>> >
>> > >> > > it will not be popular with the 1%
>> > >> > > Allan
>> >
>> > >> > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > > > Point 11 has traditionally been the Marxist line. The modern
>> > >> > > > ones
>> > >> > > > like David Harvey talk of 'surplus capital' chasing ever
>> > diminishing
>> > >> > > > rates of return. I see the problem as us not being able to get
>> > what
>> > >> > > > we sensibly want, like warm homes without vast energy bills and
>> > >> > > > the
>> > >> > > > environmental knock on and meaningful engagement as the social
>> > animals
>> > >> > > > we are. One of the interesting things at the moment is that
>> > >> > > > there
>> > are
>> > >> > > > similarities between the usual right wing hatred of taxation
>> > >> > > > and
>> > the
>> > >> > > > extent to which we are all 'taxed' by the rich and their
>> > >> > > > Monopoly
>> > >> > > > games with money - how much of our work is funneled away by
>> > financial
>> > >> > > > services that increasingly look like organised crime or so Bill
>> > Gates
>> > >> > > > can 'redistribute on our behalf'?
>> >
>> > >> > > > One question has to be the extent to which we may be
>> > >> > > > understanding
>> > >> > > > what's been going on 'unconsciously' and may be able to respond
>> > >> > > > at
>> > >> > > > that level. Every test we can do shows that people are not
>> > appraised
>> > >> > > > of the facts, but the danger with this is that we then treat
>> > everyone
>> > >> > > > as morons for not knowing. I have classes I can teach to pass
>> > maths
>> > >> > > > tests at the end of a day's teaching with some in them who
>> > >> > > > can't
>> > >> > > > remember the basics the following day when I try to push on to
>> > >> > > > what
>> > >> > > > matters. These same people are often pretty competent at
>> > >> > > > actual
>> > tasks
>> > >> > > > involving the maths if I routinise the stuff into software
>> > >> > > > choice.
>> > >> > > > One can do this with quite complex social reasoning - but 'who
>> > writes
>> > >> > > > the software' remains an issue. And at bottom Gabby isn't the
>> > problem
>> > >> > > > about trusting anyone to do the planning because we fear they
>> > >> > > > will
>> > rip
>> > >> > > > us off or turn 'totalist'? And behind this another fear that
>> > >> > > > we
>> > can't
>> > >> > > > do the planning ourselves without creating such monsters?
>> >
>> > >> > > > On Nov 7, 7:35 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > Yep, that's where I see IT having accepted their position
>> > >> > > > > too.
>> > >> > > > > the following day
>> >
>> > >> > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Allan H
>> > >> > > > > <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > > > > > In point 11 *It *seems the corporations and the people who
>> > lead
>> > >> > them
>> > >> > > > are
>> > >> > > > > > already social paths
>> > >> > > > > > Allan
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:11 AM, archytas
>> > >> > > > > > <nwte...@gmail.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > >> What strikes me on public dialogue is that we get a lot of
>> > >> > opposing
>> > >> > > > > >> views put forward that are all based in ideology that can
>> > >> > > > > >> be
>> > >> > stripped
>> > >> > > > > ...
>> >
>> > >> read more »
>
>
> --
> (
> )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
>
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