Alternatives are expensive.. the schools here are gear to the childs interests and talents or at least that is what I understand..
Greece is interesting.. they do not like these banker astarity measures being rammed down their gullet, I think the people need to tell the bankers to take their debt economics and shove it. Actually I hope that is what they will do.. dump all the debt like Argentina did.. that worked out good for them and the threats of the bankers failed to mature.
Allan
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:27 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
Daft old sods like us Allan have taken to meeting up in places like
Friends Meeting Houses. Coffee sucks and you can't get a bit of a
chill from the smoke. I spent some time at my grandson's school today
and concluded it was one horrible child-minding set up. Sue is out
there at the moment to see if there are any alternatives - I know
there aren't any. This is the type of stuff I'd like a vote on. The
economics of the politicians is that of a rich few and I'm bored with
it. My lad isn't stupid but is unusual.
> > > >> > > the...
On Nov 2, 5:19 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The referendum in Greece...
>
> I cannot really foresee its effect on the economy... But f... the
> economy, for now... what's immediate is the people who, if not taken
> on board on matters that has put them in the pits, will further drag
> the economy down no matter what solutions are imposed from above !
>
> It will be greatly interesting how the referendum choices are
> worded... and what post - referendum plans have been defined, on the
> ready for implementation, to corresponding referendum results.
>
> On Nov 2, 6:41 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The UK Occupy has taken a religious turn - the main site is near St.
> > Paul's Cathedral. Three clerics resigned in the wake of an eviction
> > threat and it's now been withdrawn. Meanwhile another protest about
> > changes in squatter rights near Parliament was suppressed by large
> > numbers of cops. The Greeks are now regarded as traitorous scum for
> > doing something democratic - a referendum. The decision has
> > apparently shocked politicians across Europe. We have some union
> > organised protests coming up. There has been no mainstream coverage
> > of the rubber bullet issue here.
>
> > On Nov 1, 10:27 pm, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Messy. The part where the long strong arm of the law "keeps the peace" via
> > > a beating is currently taking place everywhere. Aggressive movements to
> > > clear the occupation in seven cities. Rubber bullet wound pics are filling
> > > up my Facebook feed.
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Good to see you two buddies agree on your own morality of selling. How are
> > > > things going behind the scenes?
>
> > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:36 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Have to agree Chris. We have vicars resigning over OccX around St.
> > > >> Pauls. We once had Wycliffe preaching that Christ did not own the
> > > >> clothes he wore (13th century) - they dug up his bones and burned them
> > > >> for 'saying' that. Rigsy sounds like the 'pious' passer-by on this
> > > >> topic - something that doesn't fit with my feelings about her. we
> > > >> watched while they took away the disabled, then the gypsies, then the
> > > >> nay sayers and then the Jews -who would be left when they came for us
> > > >> sort of stuff.
> > > >> I'm honestly getting round to thinking what I normally consider as
> > > >> conspiracy (I prosecuted a lot of people for conspiracy) may be true
> > > >> rather than just a good yarn - Churchill as a bag man for JP Morgan,
> > > >> Blair the same and the USA merely a pawn in the rise of banksterism
> > > >> that could see more profit in a US empire it could control than in
> > > >> various species of European imperialism.
>
> > > >> The key positive is ensuring decent living standards for all that are
> > > >> also about changing how we consume, breed and other 'green' nettles we
> > > >> hardly dare admit let alone grasp. The combination of education and
> > > >> the kind of medical treatment that stops kids dying works in
> > > >> population control (with remarkably few exceptions - both sexes give
> > > >> up pressurised breed if they know the kids they do have will live. We
> > > >> do not need to produce more and more idiot western lifestyles and we
> > > >> don't really (mostly) live them anyway. In terms of 'work' I doubt
> > > >> more than a few modern westerners have much clue what it is and has
> > > >> been for many. I've come across many wuckfits who believe their 9 - 4
> > > >> in the office was hard graft. Most of what's being done now is
> > > >> neurotic or serf-like. The morality of selling is almost non-
> > > >> existent.
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> > > >> On Oct 31, 12:45 pm, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > I think it's passive to say that current economics doesn't provide
> > > >> > much...rather, the current economics provides strong incentives to treat
> > > >> > others poorly. Agents Provocateur are the order of the day in #OWS:
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> > > >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VIpIKrh7Z8
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> > > >> > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > Sorry about the lapsed video link. They are around on the net. I
> > > >> > > suspect the machine is banking and war and we suppose it something
> > > >> > > other. I'm not sure we are free as rigsy says - rather just lucky to
> > > >> > > be free of interesting times. I was thinking of Camus watching some
> > > >> > > stuff on OccupyX -
>
> > > >> > >http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/ows-guest-post-denver-police-u.
> > > >> ..
>
> > > >> > > High in the list of my values is the treatment of others (which in a
> > > >> > > sense is elitist) and I don't believe current economics provides
> > > >> > > much. It seems to me many have forgotten that their freedoms were won
> > > >> > > bu others,
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> > > >> > > On Oct 30, 11:55 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > "Even God cannot change the past." Agathon (448 B.C.-400 B.C.)
>
> > > >> > > > We are eventually free to establish our own values and lifestyle- if
> > > >> > > > we are lucky- and it sounds as if you are one of the lucky ones as
> > > >> we
> > > >> > > > type on computers constructed via slave labor to communicate our
> > > >> > > > opinions and struggles.
>
> > > >> > > > Around the beginning of the 20th Century, manufacturers accepted the
> > > >> > > > idea of making products that would soon be obsolete and need to be
> > > >> > > > replaced rather than repaired which has resulted in a toss-away
> > > >> > > > consumer society that is drenched in wastefulness. I think the idea
> > > >> > > > was first promoted by advertisers who were eager for steady income.
> > > >> > > > Replacement has become a broader fact- from mates to warfare.
>
> > > >> > > > On Oct 29, 11:01 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > > > I don't recall the exact quote from Camus, Neil, in his "Rebel"...
>
> > > >> > > > > We are living in times when the same usurpers, oligarchs, power
> > > >> > > > > brokers, Free Capitalists and State Capitalists... use values that
> > > >> > > > > appeal to people, take positions that make people feel good,
> > > >> espouse
> > > >> > > > > causes and show generosities... when all that is on their mind is
> > > >> how
> > > >> > > > > to extract more from the people, how to make laws more capital,
> > > >> > > > > priviledged and owner friendly ( yeah, the fkg Motor Act in India
> > > >> is
> > > >> > > > > still of colonial vantage, when the motors on the roads were owned
> > > >> > > > > mainly by the British... you don't need to commit any murders at
> > > >> all,
> > > >> > > > > just mow them on the road, and escape with at most as light a
> > > >> sentence
> > > >> > > > > as mere 2 years of simple imprisonment ! ), how to consolidate and
> > > >> > > > > cartelise the supply chain or distribution structures for
> > > >> essential
> > > >> > > > > commodities, so as to create scarcities and raise prices at
> > > >> will...
> > > >> > > > > control power... control money... control legislation... control
> > > >> > > > > supply and demand... control...
>
> > > >> > > > > As a result, people have come to believe that the 80% of the
> > > >> economy
> > > >> > > > > looped in to serve 20% of the population is alright, that
> > > >> millionaires
> > > >> > > > > constituting 50% of People's Representatives is alright, that
> > > >> there is
> > > >> > > > > something sacrosanct about property and shall-do-as-I-wish rights,
> > > >> > > > > that accepting money means that people have to surrender their
> > > >> freedom
> > > >> > > > > and needless dignity, that basketfuls of cake and food reject in
> > > >> waste
> > > >> > > > > bin from wealthy mansions is okay when thousands are hungry...
> > > >> and if
> > > >> > > > > you stand to question and protest over such gross social
> > > >> inequality,
> > > >> > > > > such political misrepresentation, such blatant economic
> > > >> inequity...
> > > >> > > > > you are actually shown the law, the law and order enforcement
> > > >> might,
> > > >> > > > > the feudal norms and ethics, and told "look at the others, how
> > > >> they
> > > >> > > > > are not about creating problems" !
>
> > > >> > > > > You then have only one option... which you will soon be advised
> > > >> even
> > > >> > > > > by your parents and well-wishers... to join them. After all, even
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > > > have it all... if you study and work hard, with dedication... et
> > > >> al.
>
> > > >> > > > > The fun starts, rather the mayhem, when you see no reason to join
> > > >> > > > > them, to have all that "they" have. At that stage you have already
> > > >> > > > > discovered the new paradigm for yourself. It happened with me in
> > > >> > > > > 1997... when I looked up to my boss' position and clearly saw
> > > >> that I
> > > >> > > > > didn't want it ! Lived hand to mouth for about 2 years... made
> > > >> demands
> > > >> > > > > on friends without a qualm... until the consulting work got
> > > >> > > > > acknowledged... and then I've practically retired for an otherwise
> > > >> > > > > very active life.
>
> > > >> > > > > On Oct 30, 4:32 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >> > > > > > Sorry your video is currently not available.. will try later I
> > > >> did
> > > >> > > some
> > > >> > > > > > looking up to understand the raping of Nang I have actually
> > > >> known
> > > >> > > about for
> > > >> > > > > > a long time ,, seems even before the internet why I don't
> > > >> recall any
> > > >> > > more..
> > > >> > > > > > Maybe it is from the horrible abuse and treatment of the
> > > >> american
> > > >> > > Indian
> > > >> > > > > > by my own government. and other minorities..
>
> > > >> > > > > > I think people want to believe the soft sell packaged lies..
> > > >> people
> > > >> > > > > > apparently prefer to live in fear and accept lies rather than
> > > >> face
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