[Mind's Eye] Re: Dangerous Minds

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On Dec 15, 3:22 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My mind is full of "primitive women" - oops!
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> On Dec 15, 7:43 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Remember Neil,   phycosis is only a state of mind!
> > Allan
> >  On Dec 15, 2011 8:28 AM, "archytas" <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I have always preferred negotiation with psychos at long-range with a
> > > cool trigger-finger.  If I flip and start regarding all as
> > > psychopathic - you're all in trouble.  My guess follows Don.
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> > > On Dec 14, 9:49 am, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 11, 9:51 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I was thinking... in the case of random shooting spree.. i guess the
> > > > > intention is not so much to kill... because i think killing is very
> > > > > personal.. i suppose the Gun gives the possesor some illusion of
> > > control..
> > > > > that he/she thought they lacked in general life.. or are not allowed in
> > > > > general circumstances...
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> > > > All violence is a representation of control. Either an assertion of it
> > > > or a demand for it or even a desperate bid for it.
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> > > > > The mass murder/random shootings you mention come about, I think, just
> > > as you guess above. Perhaps the perps seek the attention they feel they
> > > deserve and didn't get. They are so hungry to "matter" they do despicable
> > > things to get noticed. Others have some misguided agenda to advance.
> > > Religious, political, whatever. Some are so deluded they believe this sort
> > > of massacre will get them virgins in paradise. They're all dipping into the
> > > squirrel stash imho.
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> > > > dj
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> > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Most of us don't find killing easy pol - 98% of us take a lot of
> > > > > > rather nasty training even to do it in war.  I went through this.
> > > > > > lots written on the subject, not least on Vietnam veterans - it seems
> > > > > > the ones most traumatised are the ones who found they couldn't hack
> > > > > > the 'killing edge'.  The bulldung of (over here) "Queen and country"
> > > > > > is totally out of anything I could believe in, but it's delivered in
> > > > > > highly brainwash situations.  The disgusting purges by my countrymen
> > > > > > in Vam's country - often whole families were hung etc. as 'an
> > > example'
> > > > > > - show just what rotten behaviour is encouraged in patriotism.
> > > > > > The psycho finds it easier to kill because they experience little or
> > > > > > no shame or remorse and almost no ability to see consequences except
> > > > > > in rare cases. Very few of this type are much good at killing without
> > > > > > serious help from the weapon, which is why they tend to kill where
> > > > > > guns are available.
> > > > > > Foucault said we shouldn't listen to the experts and hear what the
> > > > > > killers say directly - but he was a prat.  I don't want to hear the
> > > > > > sociopath's explanation and would rather put a bullet in hesheorit's
> > > > > > brain. Killing is easy enough - the problem is we are asked to do
> > > much
> > > > > > worse and are killing every day through immiseration and in wars we
> > > > > > allow because we are too timid to protest and take the streets.  In
> > > > > > this sense, most of even this group are "killers".
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> > > > > > On Dec 9, 3:41 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I am not sure if i have posted something of this kind before.. cos
> > > i
> > > > > > > have a feeling i did.. I was reading about the second shooting at
> > > the
> > > > > > > Virginia Tech campus.. Although its not a mass shooting.. Did
> > > appear
> > > > > > > pretty random.. But the point is not this particular shooting.. Its
> > > > > > > this whole 'Phenomena'.. if i may use the word for the lack of a
> > > > > > > better one.. Some crazy dude filling up on Ammo and killing .. just
> > > > > > > killing randomly....  I have always been intrigued by such cases..
> > > now
> > > > > > > this guy is not a serial killer... He just pops, one day... The
> > > thing
> > > > > > > is... It could be anyone... anyone at all... i often try to apply
> > > the
> > > > > > > situation to me... And i have rather pessimistic views about it...
> > > It
> > > > > > > Cant be curbed or checked.. can it... Who will you counsel..
> > > > > > > Regulating arms is just one measure and i dont really support it...
> > > > > > > Its this apparent randomness to the whole thing..its not always
> > > > > > > depressive people who do it.. That Andrew Breivik.. i dont find him
> > > > > > > the stereotypical (the ones with whom these shootings are
> > > associated )
> > > > > > > gloomy, loner kind. Whatever the driving force maybe .. whatever
> > > the
> > > > > > > motive.. or the lack of one... Suppose i feel so disconnected from
> > > the
> > > > > > > world, from my actions ... and suppose i have a gun... and i go to
> > > any
> > > > > > > crowded place and Bang Bang.. thats it.. i might kill myself after
> > > > > > > that.. But the thing is.. what was to stop me... who couldve
> > > > > > > known..and How could you stop me.. But I suppose when i reason..
> > > deep
> > > > > > > rooted morality perhaps... and then i come to the question of
> > > > > > > conscience(is conscience natural?).. Does conscience ever leave
> > > us?..
> > > > > > > are we not all the time aware of our actions.. and if they are of
> > > such
> > > > > > > seriousness.. i dont really get when people say i Shot the person
> > > in
> > > > > > > the heat of anger.. i was not thinking... is that possible? ...
> > > Well..
> > > > > > > along the same lines. if perhaps we consider soldiers... on the
> > > > > > > warfront.. why would they kill?.. to save themselves from the
> > > > > > > bullet... To avenge their buddies shot.. but really... would one
> > > kill
> > > > > > > for country?... or perhaps some do.... We can stretch this to
> > > > > > > terrorism but thats another episode all together.. i realise i have
> > > > > > > sort of ranted here.. but tell me what you think about it.. would
> > > you
> > > > > > > kill? ever.....
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