every culture in some form. It has indeed been exploited as such -
the sale of Catholic indulgences probably one of the worst. I do
think we have one and it is an organ like the ego, carrying with it
specific functions that integrate us to the whole. With it, we bring
into the world our innate aspects, mental, emotional, our ability to
form our lives. I disagree with the notion that it is synonymous with
spirit. What we generally associate with spirit is God or Lord or the
entire mystery. Soul, if you believe in reincarnation, is the
repository of our eternal experience and like ego, reacts, but
according to karma. This puts soul in the realm of cause and effect -
an aspect to be integrated into the non dual. As such, once a person
has reached the transcendental view, karma falls away.
Like ego, whether you believe you have one or not, it is there -
telling anyone with insight all about you by your reactions. Like
ego, once transcended, soul continues to function as the repository of
our information and our ability to form (infinite for soul, finite for
ego), but we do not react from it, taking our view and responding from
a different point.
On Dec 20, 6:46 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To bad we couldn't head out for a cup of coffee or is that tea .. we could
> get into some long and enjoyable chats solving the problems of the world.
>
> I agree with you that far to many people are exploiting religion for their
> personal gain and benefit. I believe in the new testament it talks about
> what will happen to to those the are the innocent It will be a price that
> those people wish they did not have to pay.
>
> Molly often talks about dualism, it is very true and does exist. then it
> comes down seeking it for yourself My view is very much in trying to walk
> the way of life Jesus set forward (darma) The path she would recommend is
> very possible, or you could start by reading the Carlos Castaneda series
> of book,, they will give a good insight into some of the native american
> view on spirituality... you can easily skip the first volume it is
> mainly a university student going after his drugs.. but the other volumes
> give a good insight into native american beliefs and spirituality.. a
> reasonable place to start. if you are interested please forgive me it has
> been years since I read them,
> Allan
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> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:07 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > At ground level these questions seem to be about whether to believe in
> > stories told by others devoid of the purpose context of the teller.
> > You can see animals lose soul when they get stressed. Maybe a lot of
> > worry about soul is caused by material deprivation and exploitation by
> > those using religion for leadership purposes.
> > There is more to this though - and some of it concerns what Molly
> > often alludes to in understanding from a different 'place' where
> > standard impasse stops getting in the way.
>
> > On Dec 20, 8:53 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > *soul*/sōl/
> > > Noun:
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> > > 1. The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal,
> > regarded
> > > as immortal.
> > > 2. A person's moral or emotional nature or sense of identity.
>
> > > Synonyms:
> > > spirit - mind - psyche - heart - ghost
>
> > > *in·cor·po·re·al*/ˌinkôrˈpôrēəl/
> > > Adjective:
>
> > > 1. Not composed of matter; having no material existence.
> > > 2. Having no physical existence.
>
> > > Synonyms:
> > > immaterial - bodiless - insubstantial - intangible
>
> > > I put in the definitions to make sure we are working off a common
> > language
> > > understanding, not two different meanings or conception. It is based off
> > > the meaning of the word.
>
> > > I am thinking a lot about the soul and there really is no way to prove
> > > the existence of something that is of a different realm. Personally I
> > > really have no problem with that probably because of my upbringing and
> > > experiences. it never occurred to me that it was of the physical world we
> > > see around us today. I see and overlapping but have no problem with it
> > > probably because I do not expect it to be physical in nature.
>
> > > The soul falls into a strange qua dray related to God. You have the
> > choice
> > > to believe or not believe the question comes to if there is no God and
> > > you do believe there is one, you have lost nothing, then there is the
> > other
> > > hand if you do not believe there is a God potentially you could lose
> > > everything.
> > > Allan
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > > )
> > > |_D Allan
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> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> --
> (
> )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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