soul culture and Peter Max (?)- the 60's flower children and hippies,
etc.- the lingo and goals of psychotherapy- well, I could go on. I
think most cultures have demanded obligations- like the selling of
indulgences by the RCC in the past. I think soul is developed over a
lifetime- to shrink or expand depending on the individual and the
values of the culture. I do believe animals have their own kind of
soul and like humans, they can be spooked and shrivel up. Soul is
related to memory and influence- but that may be another subject.
Anyway- I am beginning to think gender is the most important
identification about any human/animal life- it's often like there are
parallel existences/experiences.
On Dec 20, 6:51 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Soul is a big part of our human mythology and shows up in just about
> every culture in some form. It has indeed been exploited as such -
> the sale of Catholic indulgences probably one of the worst. I do
> think we have one and it is an organ like the ego, carrying with it
> specific functions that integrate us to the whole. With it, we bring
> into the world our innate aspects, mental, emotional, our ability to
> form our lives. I disagree with the notion that it is synonymous with
> spirit. What we generally associate with spirit is God or Lord or the
> entire mystery. Soul, if you believe in reincarnation, is the
> repository of our eternal experience and like ego, reacts, but
> according to karma. This puts soul in the realm of cause and effect -
> an aspect to be integrated into the non dual. As such, once a person
> has reached the transcendental view, karma falls away.
>
> Like ego, whether you believe you have one or not, it is there -
> telling anyone with insight all about you by your reactions. Like
> ego, once transcended, soul continues to function as the repository of
> our information and our ability to form (infinite for soul, finite for
> ego), but we do not react from it, taking our view and responding from
> a different point.
>
> On Dec 20, 6:46 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To bad we couldn't head out for a cup of coffee or is that tea .. we could
> > get into some long and enjoyable chats solving the problems of the world.
>
> > I agree with you that far to many people are exploiting religion for their
> > personal gain and benefit. I believe in the new testament it talks about
> > what will happen to to those the are the innocent It will be a price that
> > those people wish they did not have to pay.
>
> > Molly often talks about dualism, it is very true and does exist. then it
> > comes down seeking it for yourself My view is very much in trying to walk
> > the way of life Jesus set forward (darma) The path she would recommend is
> > very possible, or you could start by reading the Carlos Castaneda series
> > of book,, they will give a good insight into some of the native american
> > view on spirituality... you can easily skip the first volume it is
> > mainly a university student going after his drugs.. but the other volumes
> > give a good insight into native american beliefs and spirituality.. a
> > reasonable place to start. if you are interested please forgive me it has
> > been years since I read them,
> > Allan
>
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:07 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > At ground level these questions seem to be about whether to believe in
> > > stories told by others devoid of the purpose context of the teller.
> > > You can see animals lose soul when they get stressed. Maybe a lot of
> > > worry about soul is caused by material deprivation and exploitation by
> > > those using religion for leadership purposes.
> > > There is more to this though - and some of it concerns what Molly
> > > often alludes to in understanding from a different 'place' where
> > > standard impasse stops getting in the way.
>
> > > On Dec 20, 8:53 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > *soul*/sōl/
> > > > Noun:
>
> > > > 1. The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal,
> > > regarded
> > > > as immortal.
> > > > 2. A person's moral or emotional nature or sense of identity.
>
> > > > Synonyms:
> > > > spirit - mind - psyche - heart - ghost
>
> > > > *in·cor·po·re·al*/ˌinkôrˈpôrēəl/
> > > > Adjective:
>
> > > > 1. Not composed of matter; having no material existence.
> > > > 2. Having no physical existence.
>
> > > > Synonyms:
> > > > immaterial - bodiless - insubstantial - intangible
>
> > > > I put in the definitions to make sure we are working off a common
> > > language
> > > > understanding, not two different meanings or conception. It is based off
> > > > the meaning of the word.
>
> > > > I am thinking a lot about the soul and there really is no way to prove
> > > > the existence of something that is of a different realm. Personally I
> > > > really have no problem with that probably because of my upbringing and
> > > > experiences. it never occurred to me that it was of the physical world we
> > > > see around us today. I see and overlapping but have no problem with it
> > > > probably because I do not expect it to be physical in nature.
>
> > > > The soul falls into a strange qua dray related to God. You have the
> > > choice
> > > > to believe or not believe the question comes to if there is no God and
> > > > you do believe there is one, you have lost nothing, then there is the
> > > other
> > > > hand if you do not believe there is a God potentially you could lose
> > > > everything.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > --
> > > > (
> > > > )
> > > > |_D Allan
>
> > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
>
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