Remember Neil, phycosis is only a state of mind!
Allan
On Dec 15, 2011 8:28 AM, "archytas" <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
I have always preferred negotiation with psychos at long-range with a
cool trigger-finger. If I flip and start regarding all as
psychopathic - you're all in trouble. My guess follows Don.
On Dec 14, 9:49 am, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 11, 9:51 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I was thinking... in the case of random shooting spree.. i guess the
> > intention is not so much to kill... because i think killing is very
> > personal.. i suppose the Gun gives the possesor some illusion of control..
> > that he/she thought they lacked in general life.. or are not allowed in
> > general circumstances...
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> All violence is a representation of control. Either an assertion of it
> or a demand for it or even a desperate bid for it.
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> > The mass murder/random shootings you mention come about, I think, just as you guess above. Perhaps the perps seek the attention they feel they deserve and didn't get. They are so hungry to "matter" they do despicable things to get noticed. Others have some misguided agenda to advance. Religious, political, whatever. Some are so deluded they believe this sort of massacre will get them virgins in paradise. They're all dipping into the squirrel stash imho.
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> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Most of us don't find killing easy pol - 98% of us take a lot of
> > > rather nasty training even to do it in war. I went through this.
> > > lots written on the subject, not least on Vietnam veterans - it seems
> > > the ones most traumatised are the ones who found they couldn't hack
> > > the 'killing edge'. The bulldung of (over here) "Queen and country"
> > > is totally out of anything I could believe in, but it's delivered in
> > > highly brainwash situations. The disgusting purges by my countrymen
> > > in Vam's country - often whole families were hung etc. as 'an example'
> > > - show just what rotten behaviour is encouraged in patriotism.
> > > The psycho finds it easier to kill because they experience little or
> > > no shame or remorse and almost no ability to see consequences except
> > > in rare cases. Very few of this type are much good at killing without
> > > serious help from the weapon, which is why they tend to kill where
> > > guns are available.
> > > Foucault said we shouldn't listen to the experts and hear what the
> > > killers say directly - but he was a prat. I don't want to hear the
> > > sociopath's explanation and would rather put a bullet in hesheorit's
> > > brain. Killing is easy enough - the problem is we are asked to do much
> > > worse and are killing every day through immiseration and in wars we
> > > allow because we are too timid to protest and take the streets. In
> > > this sense, most of even this group are "killers".
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> > > On Dec 9, 3:41 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I am not sure if i have posted something of this kind before.. cos i
> > > > have a feeling i did.. I was reading about the second shooting at the
> > > > Virginia Tech campus.. Although its not a mass shooting.. Did appear
> > > > pretty random.. But the point is not this particular shooting.. Its
> > > > this whole 'Phenomena'.. if i may use the word for the lack of a
> > > > better one.. Some crazy dude filling up on Ammo and killing .. just
> > > > killing randomly.... I have always been intrigued by such cases.. now
> > > > this guy is not a serial killer... He just pops, one day... The thing
> > > > is... It could be anyone... anyone at all... i often try to apply the
> > > > situation to me... And i have rather pessimistic views about it... It
> > > > Cant be curbed or checked.. can it... Who will you counsel..
> > > > Regulating arms is just one measure and i dont really support it...
> > > > Its this apparent randomness to the whole thing..its not always
> > > > depressive people who do it.. That Andrew Breivik.. i dont find him
> > > > the stereotypical (the ones with whom these shootings are associated )
> > > > gloomy, loner kind. Whatever the driving force maybe .. whatever the
> > > > motive.. or the lack of one... Suppose i feel so disconnected from the
> > > > world, from my actions ... and suppose i have a gun... and i go to any
> > > > crowded place and Bang Bang.. thats it.. i might kill myself after
> > > > that.. But the thing is.. what was to stop me... who couldve
> > > > known..and How could you stop me.. But I suppose when i reason.. deep
> > > > rooted morality perhaps... and then i come to the question of
> > > > conscience(is conscience natural?).. Does conscience ever leave us?..
> > > > are we not all the time aware of our actions.. and if they are of such
> > > > seriousness.. i dont really get when people say i Shot the person in
> > > > the heat of anger.. i was not thinking... is that possible? ... Well..
> > > > along the same lines. if perhaps we consider soldiers... on the
> > > > warfront.. why would they kill?.. to save themselves from the
> > > > bullet... To avenge their buddies shot.. but really... would one kill
> > > > for country?... or perhaps some do.... We can stretch this to
> > > > terrorism but thats another episode all together.. i realise i have
> > > > sort of ranted here.. but tell me what you think about it.. would you
> > > > kill? ever.....
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