thanks VamI really do appreciate the briefness
Allan
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Vam <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll try in brief...
(1) What are people ? A person ?
... it is a SYSTEM of 5 - layer or sheath,
with a dimension or axis that is obviously dipped
in MATTER, at one end, and the SELF, at the other.
(2) The 5 sheaths are :
| - FOOD or Gross Matter, flesh and bones et al
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A| >> Blood and Breath bridge
| the FOOD & VITAL sheaths
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| - VITAL or Subtle Matter, air ( 5 kinds )
| that energise and move the gross body matter
| - LOWER MIND, Instrument of ( sub - ) consciousness,
| where emotions and will surge,
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B| >>>> Waking State Mind, bridges
| the LOWER MIND & INTELLECT
| where thoughts and ideas flow, are distilled &
| knowledge of facts and understanding reside
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| - INTELLECT, the Instrument of ( super - ) consciousness,
| where comprehensive knowledge abides
| with which the Witness Consciousness is identified
C| - BLISS, of which the Ego (Waking State) in the mind,
| which covers the SOUL... the Overlord to Ego
| Soul... which is also Overlord of all other sheaths 24/7
| Soul... which is the Witness, over entire lifetime
| Soul... which the Ego does not know, but can merge with.
Ego + Vital = Spirit ... that has the energy and the will.
SOUL identified with the VITAL = SPIRIT, comprehensive.
The SELF is the soul of the SOUL, soul of the Universe !
On Dec 23, 12:39 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vam could you expand for me how you see people having spirit and soul?
> Allan
> On Dec 22, 2011 2:24 PM, "Vam" <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Pat's posts contrast very aptly
> > with those by Neil, Gabby !
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> > Seems Neil has gone in a shell...
> > but I should underscore...
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> > that, I have immense respect
> > and regard for Neil, the person.
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> > that, Neil has very close and varied
> > experiences with life on the ground
> > and has great critical insights
> > into workings of the world about us.
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> > that, he has a dream
> > on behalf of all of us
> > - of simplicity, fairness,
> > beauty and happiness...
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> > but he keeps talking of science
> > and missing the fact that it is...
> > the people who are making it
> > or breaking it all the time !
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> > Now talking about people is not easy...
> > for we have to talk about ourselves -
> > the subjective - with the same objectivity
> > that is easily applied
> > on matters of science
> > but not on people... coz they have
> > content that cannot be counted,
> > weight that cannot be measured,
> > power that is not consistent,
> > and processes that are invisible.
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> > People have spirit and a soul,
> > emotions and will,
> > thoughts and ideas,
> > notions and knowledge,
> > and a being that is a trillion diverse,
> > now evident on the social media.
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> > It's that content we need to address,
> > even as it is on a trajectory coming
> > form the old, ancient past, with its
> > religions, traditions and beliefs ---
> > pervading the present modernity,
> > society, politics, economics and
> > governance that we are seized with
> > ... ... ...
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> > We can dismiss these but not w/out
> > putting our dreams for future
> > in peril.
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> > On Dec 22, 2:45 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Pat's book is (hopefully) out today!!! See:
> >http://newlimepublishing.com/new_lime_publishing_005.
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> > > It should meet your demands, Vam! Read:
> >http://newlimepublishing.com/linked/science%20preview.pdf
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> > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Neil, in all that I have read of your thoughts and views, grand ideas
> > > > and action plans... they seem just an overreach each time, as if you
> > > > already know of its futility but can't give up, not because you
> > > > actually believe in any of the shite but because they are meaningless
> > > > enough to stand out !
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> > > > Having said that... if you can disagree with something, clearly and
> > > > articulately, and forcefully, I'd read it.
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> > > > And, too, if you can wrench yourself away from obtaining delight from
> > > > achieving everything in mere wishing and thinking, and rambling on
> > > > without being substantive.
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> > > > Have you wondered why much of your posts end up being just so many
> > > > information sheets on the notice board ? Rarely have you taken up the
> > > > challenge of going deep and real, becoming clear, and stating simply.
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> > > > So... (1) What is that one thing you disagree with ? And,
> > > > (2) What is the one thing you would like us to appreciate and
> > > > agree with ?
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|_D Allan
Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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