Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Neil...

Edward  In every generation there are teachers and false teachers, In every generations there are prophets and false prophets.

Apparently from your writings you want to be a teacher, a warrior fighting for God will to be done. I hear the same thing from Muslim fundamentalism and you and them are at opposite ends. There are a lot of stories in the old testament that are simply not true   the stories archaeology just simply do not match up.
 
How do you know God?  Are you his friend? Is he your friend? Why? Can you tell me who he is or why he created this imperfect world..  or is it really perfect? How does God see Brahma or even Allah?
Surely you have the answer to these simple questions.
Allan

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Edward Mason <masonedward058@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, Allan, and while this may be true, should we ignore all
correlations of what is fictitiously portrayed, to what we recognize
as reality? In that case, the Five Books of Moses are going to be of
little use to you. Compare the Garden of Eden story to that of the
Egyptians' story of the deceaseds' aims of arriving at Amenta. In
their view, a soul tried to weight out balanced in order to get to
Amenta to taste of the fruit that the angles eat, awarded by a woman
who resides in a tree. In the story attributed by the writer(s) of
Moses we see the fruit as forbidden, and the woman having been
deceived. Remember that Moses only slew the Egyptian character. The
Knowledge he took on to the Burning Bush with him. You are made aware
that Moses was Learned in All the Knowledge of the Egyptians.

May be learning to extract some good from things before before
labeling it will provide some solutions to the puzzles. Learn to eat
from the clay platter when the food is good. Why demand the Gold
platter, when the food is good and free served in the clay? The world
missed the message of Yeshua (Jesus) in much the same way and for the
same reasons.

The truth of it all is intelligible, reasonable, and practical. We
live in the same dimension as Abraham and the rest of the guys. The
fantasy is in thinking that it was somehow done on another plain.
Mistakes in recognizing it leaves us burning in the fierce anger of
God, while we don't even know that we are on fire. Remember, the
smoking Flax he (Yeshua) did not quench!

Edward


On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> Edward the great thing about fiction is people can read into and see
> anything they like.
> Prophecy galore.
> Allan
>
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> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Edward Mason <masonedward058@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Of course, Allan. There have been writers with knowledge dating back
>> into ancient times. We shouldn't expect them to disappear at the
>> invention of the motion picture. Look at a lot of the old cartoons
>> which showed bunches of modern day inventions and technologies. The
>> Jetsons, for example in the technological field. Or the Wizard of Oz,
>> where the passing through a field of flowers put the characters to
>> sleep. Consider the explosion of drug addiction which followed soon
>> after and has 95% of the people in this country (USA) hook on
>> something whether prescription or not. Did you know that one can
>> overdose simply by walking through a poppy field? Subtle warnings is
>> what I call them. What better way can you think of to conceal a
>> matter, than to convince the populous that it doesn't exist? The few
>> that may not be persuaded by the non-existent standards may be
>> convinced that that knowledge will send them straight to hell, because
>> it's evil and it's devil worship.
>>
>>
>> At some point one must manage to let go of preconceived notions in
>> order to filter in what is new to them, in light of actuality. More
>> importantly, think about this: what if I am correct with the
>> interpretation of the Scripture, and YHVH is in the process of
>> exacting the demise of the modern day Babylonian System, as is clearly
>> prophesied? But then there is a bunch of us here banging our heads
>> trying to find ways to make this system work, because it is all we
>> know.
>>
>> That would leave us praying to G_d for a few hours a day and fighting
>> with Him the remaining hours of that day. Wherefore, it is a good
>> practice to take out what is precious from what is vial in all
>> instances. Imagine one starving and begging for food, but demanding
>> that they be served off a platter of Gold, refusing to eat otherwise.
>> Sure, the Holy Spirits will teach all things. But there is no
>> knowledge to defeat the Word of YHVH. Best to understand it and get
>> with it, than to be done in by it.
>>
>> Edward
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Nothing like a good fantasy to prove a spiritual point huh, especially
>> > when
>> > the parties involved never existed..
>> > Allan
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Edward Mason <masonedward058@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You were doing great, Vam, until you got here:
>> >>
>> >> "Access to our spiritual content is to be attained, worked for.
>> >> But since its fruits are not phenomenal, it is worthless for
>> >> anyone with worldly aims, material goals or physical priority."
>> >>
>> >> At this point something must have happened. This statement is
>> >> basically true; People don't want to exert the necessary time and\or
>> >> effort to attain this ability. Notwithstanding the efforts by of those
>> >> who benefit most when the masses remain ignorant.
>> >>
>> >> Still, technically the statement contains vital errors; i.e.; (1)- The
>> >> fruits 'are' phenomenal! And can be viewed as the experiments play out
>> >> in practical terms of manifestation. Though many great experiments
>> >> have extended periods of manifestation. Did you watch the movie
>> >> "Aurthur"? Notice that it took Merlin six months to exact an
>> >> experiment to get the King in the bed of his enemy's wife, and how the
>> >> writers tried the show the development by practical means. (2) Look at
>> >> the world's governments and religious establishments and know that the
>> >> fruits are very beneficial to some seeking to acquire physical and
>> >> material gain. So we can read the warning in the bible, " I gave them
>> >> space to repent but they continued with their sorceries, witch crafts,
>> >> and murders."
>> >>
>> >> Edward
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I think it is a wonderful model.  Simple and elegant.  Not unlike the
>> >> > kundalini model of the integrated chakras, that unite higher and
>> >> > lower, crown and root, etc., in the heart with a spiral (of life).
>> >> > Happy new year, my friend.  Love your blog posts. Had good seats to
>> >> > see Jethro Tull play a few times in my day. Stay warm.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Dec 25, 9:19 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> It's early morning here... and cold. Colder than London, Dublin and
>> >> >> Edinburgh ! We do not have a heating system and I have not installed
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> geyser. But the upside is that we can afford the best of green tea,
>> >> >> two pots as the morning picks up. Evenings are invariably raised on
>> >> >> vodka and nights capped with a cup of coffee.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The picture in terms of sheaths is to be " seen " in one's
>> >> >> experience,
>> >> >> immediately... as content of our being, existence, and not as peels
>> >> >> that an onion may be reduced !
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ( A )  the Physical ... including two sheaths, Gross and Vital
>> >> >> content, of our being.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ( B )  the Mental ... including two sheaths, Mind and Intellect
>> >> >> content, of our being.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ( C )  the Spiritual ... contained, and concealed, in the Bliss
>> >> >> sheath.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is a continuity that can be seen... all along the axis...
>> >> >> from Matter to the Self, moving on from the Material Space
>> >> >> in which the body is objectively situated, as one among others,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to the Mental Space where terms of objectivity like " extension "
>> >> >> " mass " " weight " and " count " are without any real meaning,
>> >> >> consequence or worth. The phenomena here is SEEN subjectively,
>> >> >> felt as emotion interfacing with vitality in the physical space,
>> >> >> understood as thought which emotions evoke,
>> >> >> as idea which cumulative thoughts from.
>> >> >> and as knowledge when an idea abides over the long term.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Spiritual Space has content that are normally closed,
>> >> >> unless joy characterises our natural disposition
>> >> >> and happiness becomes the ground state.
>> >> >> And that is rather rather rare.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Access to our spiritual content is to be attained, worked for.
>> >> >> But since its fruits are not phenomenal, it is worthless for
>> >> >> anyone with worldly aims, material goals or physical priority.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Dec 25, 2:09 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I have been thinking about it and sheath is a very good word to
>> >> >> > use.
>> >> >> > What
>> >> >> > Vam wrote does not waste words.  ...  it does contain ideas other
>> >> >> > than
>> >> >> > mine,  probably because I have never needed to ask and just
>> >> >> > accepted
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > concept as truth, the latter part is excellent, some of it I
>> >> >> > simply
>> >> >> >  have
>> >> >> > not thought through yet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It is very interesting. I like looking at ideas concerning God by
>> >> >> > what ever
>> >> >> > name as long as they are not trying to sell me a bill of goods.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Neil you have been a good boy I presume and not packing contraband
>> >> >> > through
>> >> >> > the mountains?
>> >> >> > Allan
>> >> >> > On Dec 25, 2011 1:01 AM, "archytas" <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
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>> > --
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>> > |_D Allan
>> >
>> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> |_D Allan
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