I would have to look them up, but I believe you ate right, maybe I read them again.
Allan
On Dec 21, 2011 5:59 PM, "Edward Mason" <masonedward058@gmail.com> wrote:
" Carlos Castaneda series of book,, they will give a good insight into
some of the native american view on spirituality... you can easily
skip the first volume it is mainly a university student going after
his drugs.. but the other volumes give a good insight into native
american beliefs and spirituality.. a reasonable place to start. if
you are interested please forgive me it has been years since I read
them,"
I think one was "A Journey to Exillan"? maybe.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:40 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There may be a worldly and spiritual soul split- for instance, Black
> soul culture and Peter Max (?)- the 60's flower children and hippies,
> etc.- the lingo and goals of psychotherapy- well, I could go on. I
> think most cultures have demanded obligations- like the selling of
> indulgences by the RCC in the past. I think soul is developed over a
> lifetime- to shrink or expand depending on the individual and the
> values of the culture. I do believe animals have their own kind of
> soul and like humans, they can be spooked and shrivel up. Soul is
> related to memory and influence- but that may be another subject.
> Anyway- I am beginning to think gender is the most important
> identification about any human/animal life- it's often like there are
> parallel existences/experiences.
>
> On Dec 20, 6:51 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Soul is a big part of our human mythology and shows up in just about
>> every culture in some form. It has indeed been exploited as such -
>> the sale of Catholic indulgences probably one of the worst. I do
>> think we have one and it is an organ like the ego, carrying with it
>> specific functions that integrate us to the whole. With it, we bring
>> into the world our innate aspects, mental, emotional, our ability to
>> form our lives. I disagree with the notion that it is synonymous with
>> spirit. What we generally associate with spirit is God or Lord or the
>> entire mystery. Soul, if you believe in reincarnation, is the
>> repository of our eternal experience and like ego, reacts, but
>> according to karma. This puts soul in the realm of cause and effect -
>> an aspect to be integrated into the non dual. As such, once a person
>> has reached the transcendental view, karma falls away.
>>
>> Like ego, whether you believe you have one or not, it is there -
>> telling anyone with insight all about you by your reactions. Like
>> ego, once transcended, soul continues to function as the repository of
>> our information and our ability to form (infinite for soul, finite for
>> ego), but we do not react from it, taking our view and responding from
>> a different point.
>>
>> On Dec 20, 6:46 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > To bad we couldn't head out for a cup of coffee or is that tea .. we could
>> > get into some long and enjoyable chats solving the problems of the world.
>>
>> > I agree with you that far to many people are exploiting religion for their
>> > personal gain and benefit. I believe in the new testament it talks about
>> > what will happen to to those the are the innocent It will be a price that
>> > those people wish they did not have to pay.
>>
>> > Molly often talks about dualism, it is very true and does exist. then it
>> > comes down seeking it for yourself My view is very much in trying to walk
>> > the way of life Jesus set forward (darma) The path she would recommend is
>> > very possible, or you could start by reading the Carlos Castaneda series
>> > of book,, they will give a good insight into some of the native american
>> > view on spirituality... you can easily skip the first volume it is
>> > mainly a university student going after his drugs.. but the other volumes
>> > give a good insight into native american beliefs and spirituality.. a
>> > reasonable place to start. if you are interested please forgive me it has
>> > been years since I read them,
>> > Allan
>>
>> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:07 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > At ground level these questions seem to be about whether to believe in
>> > > stories told by others devoid of the purpose context of the teller.
>> > > You can see animals lose soul when they get stressed. Maybe a lot of
>> > > worry about soul is caused by material deprivation and exploitation by
>> > > those using religion for leadership purposes.
>> > > There is more to this though - and some of it concerns what Molly
>> > > often alludes to in understanding from a different 'place' where
>> > > standard impasse stops getting in the way.
>>
>> > > On Dec 20, 8:53 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > *soul*/sōl/
>> > > > Noun:
>>
>> > > > 1. The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal,
>> > > regarded
>> > > > as immortal.
>> > > > 2. A person's moral or emotional nature or sense of identity.
>>
>> > > > Synonyms:
>> > > > spirit - mind - psyche - heart - ghost
>>
>> > > > *in·cor·po·re·al*/ˌinkôrˈpôrēəl/
>> > > > Adjective:
>>
>> > > > 1. Not composed of matter; having no material existence.
>> > > > 2. Having no physical existence.
>>
>> > > > Synonyms:
>> > > > immaterial - bodiless - insubstantial - intangible
>>
>> > > > I put in the definitions to make sure we are working off a common
>> > > language
>> > > > understanding, not two different meanings or conception. It is based off
>> > > > the meaning of the word.
>>
>> > > > I am thinking a lot about the soul and there really is no way to prove
>> > > > the existence of something that is of a different realm. Personally I
>> > > > really have no problem with that probably because of my upbringing and
>> > > > experiences. it never occurred to me that it was of the physical world we
>> > > > see around us today. I see and overlapping but have no problem with it
>> > > > probably because I do not expect it to be physical in nature.
>>
>> > > > The soul falls into a strange qua dray related to God. You have the
>> > > choice
>> > > > to believe or not believe the question comes to if there is no God and
>> > > > you do believe there is one, you have lost nothing, then there is the
>> > > other
>> > > > hand if you do not believe there is a God potentially you could lose
>> > > > everything.
>> > > > Allan
>>
>> > > > --
>> > > > (
>> > > > )
>> > > > |_D Allan
>>
>> > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> > --
>> > (
>> > )
>> > |_D Allan
>>
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