Morals are an individual function that serves " the " social
responsibility.
But the individual can be moral, have the reason to be moral,
and continue to be moral, ONLY to the extent he knows
AND REMEMBERS the " cause and effect " facts,
their value for himself and humanity... the truths.
Because, time separates the cause and effect. Most science... physics,
chemistry, biology, medicine... the knowledge of it is gleaned from
what is happening before our eyes, or over days and months, even
years. But that isn't all, is in fact horribly deficient, too little
to enable us to make a choice, act or institute.
It takes decades and centuries for the most crucial effects to emerge,
in very inscrutable but inevitable ways.
So, science keeps contradicting, revising, restating, re-defining... a
hailed panacea is declared harmful 20 - 30 years later... all manner
of very scientific "logic" is then publicised, gets instituted, purely
to raise money and concentrate power, establish business networks that
involve millions of people and spew economic funda that determine
State policies. Today, over US $400 billion is consumed in drugs that
are psychotropic ! The weapons industry in the West - the massive
massive motha fkg industry - is a case in point, of State and
Economic priorities set on such logic supported by very what reputed
strategic research institutions and highly honourable think tanks.
I am making a case for good, old memory, dear. Since morality is an
individual function, though a social imperative, it is memory of our
knowledge of " Being ", of cause and effect, of the knowledge we have
of ourself, of our behaviour, thought and attitude, discovered
knowledge about things and beings, of what is undesirable and should
be avoided or prevented, of what is desirable and should valued,
cultivated and persist with.
If we knew and remembered history, in all its details going back to
individual function, we'd know what is best for us and humanity.
But do not write history in that manner... we report date and events,
and gross happenings and developments, never the individuals' act,
intent and choices, their reasons, logic and perceptions, purposes and
ambitions, and prevailing social thought and beliefs going back to
individuals' function... ambitions, manipulations and beliefs,
The more we know and remember, the more valid will be our knowledge,
in truth, of value and values that hold on longer time scale.
On Feb 17, 8:19 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I read this plus comments. I didn't understand all of the economics.
> What about those people who are hiding money at home? What if the
> currency is changed- didn't the US demand that silver certificates and
> gold coins be turned in? Anyway- you are right and I was harsh and
> hasty.// Doesn't our government own our debt ultimately rather than
> the banks via laws and regulations. As far as I know Wall Street and
> the banks are operating within granted privileges- taxes are set by
> law- even the Congress could benefit from insider trades till their
> recent bill. Anyway, the Greek carpenter's story was sad and bleak. I
> hope Greece defaults- I think- but does not rejoin the new Ottoman
> Empire.//I wonder what I will do when the US collapses? Probably
> hitchhike to one of my sons...//Yes- it does boil down to values and
> morals- our modern world is psychotic.
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> On Feb 16, 5:14 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'd say this is similar to what I found on my visit to Piraeus -http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/austerity-policy-destroying-gr...
> > - and the US is now issuing more debt than it takes in as taxes.
> > We can reorganise and should do this by taking down the rich and the
> > debt they 'own'.
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> > On Feb 16, 11:08 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Would it were so rigsy. A fairly standard review of what's been
> > > happening in finance can be found here -http://www.cfainstitute.org/learning/products/publications/rf/Pages/r...
> > > - from the investment managers' professional body. Many ordinary
> > > people who put the toil in, including Greeks working two jobs, are
> > > discovering what they thought their hard work has earned is worth
> > > nothing. These are people who thought they were being self-
> > > sufficient. I suspect we have been living off the backs of others too
> > > - but believe this current situation may be linked to the recognition
> > > the real work that needs doing is under-valued in the crazed libidinal
> > > economics. People who put the work time in are finding themselves no
> > > better off than the shirkers and some of this is down to work having
> > > gone neurotic.
> > > What I saw in Greece was people I know as friends working two jobs and
> > > more not able to meet mortgage payments - just as in Eastern Europe in
> > > transition. Here I find people who have just had private pension
> > > payments halved - in Greece this has hit the public sector and will
> > > here. Obama is tapping US pension funds. Austerity can work for a
> > > home - and I had some great times when broke - but it's bullshit
> > > ideology for the gullible as an economic answer.
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> > > On Feb 16, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > How do you know what my life has been? I learned a great deal during
> > > > lean times- in fact, I would say it was my most creative period. And I
> > > > disagree about the banks- although there are certainly some wolves in
> > > > life's woods. It's like saying a grocery store or restaurant is to
> > > > blame for obesity or digestive ills. Individuals and nations lived
> > > > beyond their means and disregarded contracts, etc. Since we have been
> > > > nursed on entitlements, many thought they would be bailed so now comes
> > > > the whining and tantrums.
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> > > > On Feb 15, 9:38 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > There is nothing left to tighten... Put the same astiaity measures intact
> > > > > in your life rigsy... see how it feels.. The majority of these prolems are
> > > > > brought on by the banksters..
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> > > > > If Greece fails you will be effected also..
> > > > > On Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Stop destroying your cities, Greeks! Tighten your belts! Pay the
> > > > > > Piper!
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> > > > > > On Feb 15, 3:01 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I see the Banksters desperately trying to destroy Greece.. I have Greek
> > > > > > > friends there and I am wondering about Ideas of how to help them once the
> > > > > > > Banksters manage to succeed on their mission.
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> > > > > > > Please add your thoughts as it is an up coming problem for me.
> > > > > > > Allan
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> > > > > > > |_D Allan
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