Allan
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our ethical systems evolved from paganism. Maybe "evolved" is a
stretch.
On Feb 15, 4:59 pm, Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe not to some,but one could argue that finding God is the ultimate
> moral act because one gives recognition and gratitude to the One who
> provided life, opportunity to experience the world and really
> everything else. I realize that people believe in God for so many
> reasons, but ultimately one has to think it is the truth in order to
> embrace it.
>
> On 2/15/12, gwilliamsny11 <gwilliamsn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > I appreciate Eman's perspective re the experience of God leading to wanting
> > to make the world a better place. However
>
> > I am of the opinion that connection with "God" is not necessary to live an
> > ethical life. For me whether there is a God in the sense of
>
> > a supreme Goodness, Truth, originator of divine wisdom, all powerful etc.
> > isn't all that important. The fact that there is continuing
>
> > suffering, apparent injustices on a world wide scale, fundamental
> > unfairness, random good and or bad luck - limited control over one's
>
> > destiny and a multitude of additional realistic limitations plus the fact
> > of human creativity means to me that each of us has a core choice
>
> > to live an artistic ethical life in promoting that which is constructive, or
> > cave into cynicism and a lazy what the hell attitude of everything is
>
> > equal so in the end nothing really matters very much.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com>
> > To: minds-eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:54 am
> > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Life's Purpose
>
> > There is room for variation and idiosyncrasies as to the meaning of
> > life for each of us, each within his/her angle of the world and inner
> > dynamics. I do believe, however, that a general view of the purpose of
> > life can be twofold: one aesthetic, and one ethical. Thoughtfully
> > savoring life with all it has to offer to the best of our abilities
> > and marveling in the magnificence and uniqueness of our existence can
> > be an end in itself. Ethically, we need to try to make the world
> > better with than without us, each within their means. To connect both
> > ethics and aesthetics, human beings are endowed with such incessant
> > thirst for knowledge and pursuit of truths of their existence and the
> > world they inhabit. I think that under that bridge between marveling
> > in the wonders of life, and making a positive imprint on it, lie much
> > of the sciences, arts , and even religions that human beings have
> > created, developed and pursued since the dawns of their existence as a
> > species. Being a Muslim, I will add that to me pesonally, finding God
> > through His magnificent and complex creation is a purpose that I place
> > within the first category , which had to do with experiencing life,
> > but once God is found, it leads up to the second layer, which is
> > trying to make the world a better place, or at least preserve what is
> > good about it.
>
> > On 2/15/12, gwilliamsny11 <gwilliamsn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> After 75 years of experience on this earth plane here is my conclusion as
> >> to
> >> the meaning of -at least - my life:
>
> >> Living from day to day confronts us with a never ending array of problems
> >> ranging from practical issues such as
>
> >> what is on the top of my to do list - to philosophical such as why am I
> >> bothering to get up at all - to urgent: I have to do something
>
> >> about the pain in my tooth-
>
> >> Since I am preoccupied with one or more problems to be solved and it gives
> >> me satisfaction to master each and all of them --it follows
>
> >> that the good life must be concerned with becoming an expert problem
> >> solver.
>
> >> Adopting this ethic reinforces my interests in science (particularly
> >> scientific method); philosophical theory and discourse (particularly
>
> >> Spinoza, the Pragmatists, Socrates, Plato and Aristotle); continuing to
> >> examine the implications of viewing the nature of meaningful
>
> >> coincidences from two alternative perspectives (Jung: mystical magical
> >> transcendent collective unconscious and G Williams
>
> >> naturalistic, personal unconscious, by products of the idiosyncratic
> >> creative process); depth psychology notably Freudian
>
> >> classical psychoanalysis, British Object Relations theorists especially
> >> Guntrip, Winnicott etc); continued learning about the nature of
>
> >> psychodynamics; continuing learning about the nature of the self and how
> >> it
> >> develops (particularly Spitz, The First Year of Life) - Freiberg:
>
> >> The Magic Years; and adopting the seminal incite that the key to
> >> emotional
> >> success is adopting and practicing the discovery that the
>
> >> best attitude to coping with the daily experiences of anxiety,
> >> depression,
> >> frustration and stress (tension) is an attitude of bring them on
>
> >> and I will tolerate them the best I can which is essentially the
> >> concluding
> >> message of Molly Bloom in Joyce's must read classic:
>
> >> Ulysses - that after a life time of experience much of it traumatic she
> >> sums
> >> up with yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes, again yes. Top that ethic
>
> >> if you can.
>
> >> Gibbs A. Williams gibbsonline. com
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>
> >> To: minds-eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 11:53 pm
> >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Life's Purpose
>
> >> Do you mean ... to always do the right thing?....
>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:37 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:08 AM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>
>
> >> I understood that Erica meant it was our cognitive abilities which had
> >> made
> >> us aware of better streamlining ourselves.
>
> >> I hope this opens up for a more mortal and less moral interpretation, yes.
>
> >> wrote:> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Erica Moreau <ericamor...@gmail.com>
>
> >> yes... thats such an interesting thing... happiness is a choice.... but
> >> we
> >> dont quite know about it do we.. nor do mot of us care....
> >> sometimes i hate happiness ... but thats really not possible is it... it
> >> only exposes the essentially morbid mind...
>
> >> wrote:> >> EverComing- Hide quoted text -
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> >> I thought happiness was the purpose [not that people can recognize
> >> that happiness is not a feeling, but rather a choice...]
>
> >> On Feb 5, 10:55 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Life has no purpose except evolution ; a person has to search his own
> >>> purpose in life and live for it. Some live for the attainment of wealth
> >>> and
> >>> fame , some for the freedom of their country , removal of corruption ,
> >>> some
> >>> for the attainment of wisdom and some for the happiness of their
> >>> children.
> >>> You have to set your own priorities.
>
> >> --
> >> EverComing
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> >> --
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|_D Allan
Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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