Re: Mind's Eye Re: freedom of speech

More of the same is coming I'd guess.

On Mar 6, 6:48 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the spin involved in the weasels Bush war  and it lies directly on Bush
> much more so than Blair...  bush was desperate to have a war and they were
> looking for any excuse  his cronies did not help..  Bush wanted to be a
> great war time president.
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> The american people  are not much more than a bunch of lemmings and TV has
> taken the ability to think away from them. Today the spin doctors have made
> a science of manipulating the press and people.   If you listen to them the
> US was totally debt free until Obama  and all of the debt came about as a
> result of his policies.
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> Blame there is plenty to go around the real question is when are the people
> responsible going to accept it..  oops I am sorry I forgot they are not
> much more than lemmings or s it the other way around? I forget
> Allan
> On Mar 5, 2012 11:44 PM, "archytas" <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > There's a lot of work on why free speech is not really part of our
> > politics - usually focusing on the indexing of the media by its
> > professionals so only small parts of possible debate can take place in
> > media space.  Manuel Castells is a 'name' in the area and he did an
> > interesting piece on how the lies on the Iraq War were promulgated by
> > Bush-Blair.  Google turns it up.
> > The BBC's economic reporting is dire - and yet in free speech terms
> > one can find much better analysis - so why is the BBC so bad?  Fox is
> > even more facile.  One of the eventual questions once one realises
> > people don't hear evidence, is why speaking out is so ineffective.
> > Again, we already have some answers, but they include most people
> > being kept in a form of perpetual childhood, which is rather elitist.
> > Free speech under the Soviets was termed Samizdat, but they also used
> > to say that our own false-consciousness was formed by detective
> > novels, advertising and so on.  In the end we have to get to grips
> > with what we have right to impose on others - such as a media space of
> > genuine free speech or even the idea we can form truth that decent
> > people should accept.
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> > On Mar 1, 7:03 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > That is very interesting  I like the part ' Firstly *it set the will and
> > > the wishes of the people above the King* ' I think there is a problem
> > but I
> > > was reading euro news and they are talking about Greece but not in
> > asterity
> > >   and it was mentioned the approach is not correct.
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> > > I was looking at Face book and there was comments along the line of
> > > bringing things into line where people are important..  maybe just maybe
> > > the politicians are learning to smell the roses..  even the banks are
> > > slowly learning the bankster ways don't wash.
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> > > Freedom of speech is needed, In reading the earlier post on creativity...
> > >  Most people have little or no creativity and follow like lemmings in
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> > > migration..  they just follow the person in front of them with no memory
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> > > the past and no questions..  some stupid ones like where did all of
> > Romeys
> > > money come from?  I have a feeling there is a lot of insider trading with
> > > his blessing..and a whole lot of non-investigation.
> > > Allan
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> > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:37 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That'll be the England so full of free speech that people left in
> > > > droves over centuries I guess Allan!  The first edict on freedom in
> > > > English was, of course, drafted by Scots in the Declaration of
> > > > Arbroath.
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> > > > On Feb 28, 8:11 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I see England has lost it freedom of speech..
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> > > > > the corps ar now in charge and will over run.
> > > > > Allan
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> > > |_D Allan
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> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.