Re: Mind's Eye Re: the rich are mean

I have 20/40 vision but can't read small print, etc. without glasses-
or sometimes a magnifying glass. After all the reading, stitching, 000
brushwork, mincing, viewing I am surprised I am not as blind as a bat!
I joke that our eyes mist to reduce the flaws of time- like the way
film-makers coated the camera lens on those old misty movies. Camera
controls are a nightmare but I quit that anyway. I still have a rotary
dial phone in the basement, by the way, which intrigues the
grandchildren.//Sometimes I feel like an "oldie" but I think it an
unfortunate phrase since there is so much life left in the time we
have in the now- the future is as brutal with youth, for instance- and
a certain mellowness has eased into us like wines or those charming
antiques on the Antiques Roadshow.// How is that porridge faring?
Mostly I use oatmeal for the base of a fruit/nut muffin which I have
to have on hand or in the freezer. Wouldn't soups be another
alternative and give you some variety of taste as well as nutrients?

On Mar 22, 5:44 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then they will need i-Phones designed to be as cool as the phones with
> big buttons for us oldies.
>
> On Mar 15, 1:41 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Maybe youth will grow enormous thumbs from texting? :-) I need
> > breakfast...
>
> > On Mar 15, 8:36 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > He pressed the wrong buttons setting up the phone and had to come to
> > > me to stop it speaking French.  He's had a new flat pack computer desk
> > > for weeks - I'm on strike as he never learns anything or even hangs
> > > about to do so.  He has shades of Asperger, but his mates are almost
> > > all as bad - except the young Bulgarian kid next door.  In the main
> > > they not only can't be trusted with hammers, saws and the like but
> > > also have no clue how to hit a nail.  Not  much different with IT
>
> > > On Mar 15, 1:14 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > The smart phones are "crazy like a fox". There was a segment on local
> > > > news about how they track absolutely everything- even one's address
> > > > book- also interviews with young users who were not alarmed as their
> > > > culture thrives on dirty laundry and letting it "all hang out". There
> > > > are parental controls but not sure they really protect the user in the
> > > > long run. Google, at least, asks permission to share info.
>
> > > > On Mar 14, 8:19 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > No problem Smart phones are crazy and which is which is crazier  my
> > > > > neighbor has one and my wife just recieved a new HTC Desire from her Work
> > > > >  and I am looking at the Samsung Note  but will probably buy a Electric
> > > > > bike..   they are cool but very expensive  between 2 and 3 grand  for a
> > > > > good one
> > > > > Allan
> > > > > Live is crazy
>
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:28 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > You are right. It could have been the number of times I read Neil
> > > > > > mentioning his iPhone investment in his notes. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >> the 4 refers to the iPhone model   you really should have popped the
> > > > > >> extra cash and got him a samsung galaxy Note,,
> > > > > >> Allan
>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>> The price for so much stinginess and spreading so much bound bad energy
> > > > > >>> is protective deafness and  self controlled communication and interaction
> > > > > >>> via device rather than man. Or did I misread you and you have already
> > > > > >>> bought him 4 iPhones?
>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:47 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> The rise of democracy, modern capitalism and well-paid jobs is little
> > > > > >>>> understood I guess - otherwise we'd have an economics that worked from
> > > > > >>>> decent livelihoods up.  In war we feed our soldiers a pound of meat a
> > > > > >>>> day (other than in logistic cock-ups and Haliburton rip-offs - that's
> > > > > >>>> where Thomas Cook the travel agent started) - but our trainees are now
> > > > > >>>> so poor they skip at least one meal because they can't afford it.  We
> > > > > >>>> need creative thinking with a critical edge - I've just started a
> > > > > >>>> Johan Lehrer book that is out Stateside but not here until next month
> > > > > >>>> that says lack of the critical kills creativity dead.
> > > > > >>>> My starting point is that science is value-laden (it's surely a value
> > > > > >>>> to want truth rather than fable) and the facts are so intolerable to
> > > > > >>>> most they are avoided (there is a Freudian ring here - reality is
> > > > > >>>> pushed under cover).  To remove poverty (at least materially) the
> > > > > >>>> obvious start is the provision of livelihoods and accommodating our
> > > > > >>>> economics and law to that.  It's surely clear we don't and have been
> > > > > >>>> removing points of resistance like trade unions and meaningful voting.
> > > > > >>>> I've just bought my grandson an i-Phone 4S against my better judgement
> > > > > >>>> and in favour of the pressures he lives in in the teenage set.  I
> > > > > >>>> don't know what to tell him about the truth on Apple, or what his
> > > > > >>>> desire for this pathetic toy is about, and how this is manipulated
> > > > > >>>> into the success of Apple as a tax avoiding,  offshore crap employer
> > > > > >>>> and even deaths in exploding factories without reasonable health and
> > > > > >>>> safety.  One can say much the same on teaching business and economics
> > > > > >>>> to gawping 18 year-olds who increasingly default on their loans
> > > > > >>>> because there are no decent jobs.  They like the idea of Steve Jobs as
> > > > > >>>> an iconoclast hero.
>
> > > > > >>>> On Mar 12, 1:38 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > I was thinking of these as they were integrated into Common Law and
> > > > > >>>> > still impact modern law, litigation and taxation. But don't "test"
> > > > > >>>> > me...yet!// I don't think there is a "need" for a poor class either
> > > > > >>>> > but it exists even with government assistance programs. Is it related
> > > > > >>>> > to ambition? Some of our immigrants were dirt poor on arrival but
> > > > > >>>> > gradually prospered. Did the economic system of the time- manual
> > > > > >>>> > labor, mostly- help? Then there are wars and unions to consider. What
> > > > > >>>> > about personal characteristics? There certainly are rags to riches to
> > > > > >>>> > rags stories abounding. How have current economies changed the nature
> > > > > >>>> > of the workforce- consider the influence of the Industrial
> > > > > >>>> > Revolution.//Anyway, I have dusted off 10 volumes of Churchill and
> > > > > >>>> > have started in after watching a great version of Richard III. I read
> > > > > >>>> > a couple sets long ago but it seems all new again. I must say, the
> > > > > >>>> > English are/were certainly a resiliant bunch. :-)//Finally, more than
> > > > > >>>> > one stay-at-home mom has exclaimed she was a "slave" in my lifetime so
> > > > > >>>> > that's probably the lure of an outside job plus it seems impossible to
> > > > > >>>> > live on one salary although it also costs a lot to work sometimes. Now
> > > > > >>>> > we just consider our life styles obsolete.
>
> > > > > >>>> > On Mar 11, 5:27 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> > > I remember the Danegeld and Bots and Wers (blood payments to
> > > > > >>>> widows).
> > > > > >>>> > > I'm resistant to the idea that there is any need for a poor class,
> > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > >>>> > > I also dislike free riding when work needs doing.  I think we've
> > > > > >>>> lost
> > > > > >>>> > > the plot on work organisation and money.
>
> > > > > >>>> > > On Mar 10, 6:58 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> > > > Rents are related to Saxon/Danish tributes, in a sense. In fact,
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > > > whole idea of money setting the value was Germanic, I believe. And
> > > > > >>>> > > > one's worth was also set by law and culture.
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> > > > > >>>> > > > On Mar 9, 2:09 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> > > > > In Piff's experiments it doesn't matter much if you are born
> > > > > >>>> into the
> > > > > >>>> > > > > wealth, so what you and rigs say holds in comparison.  It's not
> > > > > >>>> > > > > sympathy with the poor - if this system worked it wouldn't
> > > > > >>>> matter.
> > > > > >>>> > > > > What I object to is serfdom to rents (as the economic term) -
> > > > > >>>> what I'd
> > > > > >>>> > > > > look forward to is a society in which we can do stuff without
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > > > > current money motives.  We restrict a lot of human activity
> > > > > >>>> through
> > > > > >>>> > > > > law and culture.  I think we've got the way we do money wrong
> > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > >>>> > > > > should by now have a more moral system in keeping with
> > > > > >>>> democracy.  We
> > > > > >>>> > > > > haven't and are losing democratic control and many what they
> > > > > >>>> thought
> > > > > >>>> > > > > were such things as secure pensions.  My 'allegiance' is with
> > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > >>>> > > > > thought of a better form of life.  Austerity, in which the poor
> > > > > >>>> have
> > > > > >>>> > > > > to take less, is ludicrous in the massively improved
> > > > > >>>> productivity of
> > > > > >>>> > > > > the present.  My guess is, if we had a cull of the top 10%, we
> > > > > >>>> would
> > > > > >>>> > > > > soon not notice any skill loss.  I only suggest this as a
> > > > > >>>> thought
> > > > > >>>> > > > > experiment to cut through the bull they put out on their
> > > > > >>>> necessity -
> > > > > >>>> > > > > and hence the necessity for all the mega wealth as
> > > > > >>>> 'motivation'.  If
> > > > > >>>> > > > > we could put a global salary cap on soccer at £80K the game
> > > > > >>>> wouldn't
> > > > > >>>> > > > > stop.
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> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Mar 9, 5:45 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> > > > > > why do you think poor is a negative standard.. i mean of
> > > > > >>>> course the word
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > itself is negative.. what about austerity .. why should it be
> > > > > >>>> noble than
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > poor.... i wonder sometimes how it must feel to be rich.. the
> > > > > >>>> one thought
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > that comes is what will i do with all my money(do our 'means'
> > > > > >>>> influence our
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > personalities much?).... and at times i wonder what sort of
> > > > > >>>> aspirations i
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > would have had i had been poor.... i agree with rigs.. it
> > > > > >>>> really depends on
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > the person... someone poor removed from his poverty and
> > > > > >>>> gaining means could
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