Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Unconscious

I think God moved to another galaxy...

On Mar 7, 5:08 pm, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay I agree creation is a mistake, at least the way that is has been
> written in the Bible, but there must be a sort of creation, even if
> life started all by itself. I believe that man needs to have a soul
> because it helps us to live decently and if it turns into nothingness
> when we die, so be it. It seems to me that we are moving closer to
> Confucius ways of living, where God and religions don't seem to be
> important, but souls still exist somehow.
> Now about God being unconscious, is this god unconsciousness going to
> last forever, or will God eventually become conscious one day and
> change things according to his will? Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> On Mar 6, 11:00 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The issue Menfranco, as always is we end up dealing with little other
> > than fiction generated by people, such as souls and thus possibly are
> > off on a wild goose chase.
> > Yet notions like soul have impinged more on most of human
> > consciousness than such stuff as dark matter that science now seems to
> > be "photographing".  The notion of the souls returning to god and
> > whether this return is unconscious or carries some form of experience
> > information with it rings with notions in physics as to whether the
> > universe does this at its end -  is the information experience of the
> > universe carried through "the big shrink".  The maths suggests only
> > quantum fluctuations may survive.
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> > Gnostics believe creation is a mistake and the idea is to live
> > decently and return to nothingness.  I wonder what we can divine in
> > speculation rather than find with certainty.
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> > On Mar 5, 10:33 pm, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Hi RP and everybody else; From what I have read in this thread, one
> > > can call God Mother Nature, since Mother Nature is unconscious, or
> > > Mother Nature plus cosmic energy of the universe, this concept agrees
> > > with my own beliefs, but I wonder what happens to the dead people
> > > souls when they die and return to God, do they become completely
> > > unconscious or do they take with them a sort of consciousness that
> > > mixes up with the cosmic energies of the universe, and therefore God
> > > becomes conscious but unwilling to take part and change the natural
> > > laws?
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> > > On Mar 4, 9:59 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious Nature
> > > > which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and
> > > > inaction.
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> > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > That doesn't help RP.  Why this rather than a host of alternatives?
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> > > > > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and consciousness ,
> > > > >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and without
> > > > >> attributes.
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> > > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
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> > > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation which
> > > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have choice , but
> > > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory of the
> > > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by laws and
> > > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
> > > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
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> > > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation which
> > > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have choice , but
> > > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory of the
> > > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by laws and
> > > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".- Hide quoted text -
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