written in the Bible, but there must be a sort of creation, even if
life started all by itself. I believe that man needs to have a soul
because it helps us to live decently and if it turns into nothingness
when we die, so be it. It seems to me that we are moving closer to
Confucius ways of living, where God and religions don't seem to be
important, but souls still exist somehow.
Now about God being unconscious, is this god unconsciousness going to
last forever, or will God eventually become conscious one day and
change things according to his will? Does anyone have any ideas?
On Mar 6, 11:00 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue Menfranco, as always is we end up dealing with little other
> than fiction generated by people, such as souls and thus possibly are
> off on a wild goose chase.
> Yet notions like soul have impinged more on most of human
> consciousness than such stuff as dark matter that science now seems to
> be "photographing". The notion of the souls returning to god and
> whether this return is unconscious or carries some form of experience
> information with it rings with notions in physics as to whether the
> universe does this at its end - is the information experience of the
> universe carried through "the big shrink". The maths suggests only
> quantum fluctuations may survive.
>
> Gnostics believe creation is a mistake and the idea is to live
> decently and return to nothingness. I wonder what we can divine in
> speculation rather than find with certainty.
>
> On Mar 5, 10:33 pm, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi RP and everybody else; From what I have read in this thread, one
> > can call God Mother Nature, since Mother Nature is unconscious, or
> > Mother Nature plus cosmic energy of the universe, this concept agrees
> > with my own beliefs, but I wonder what happens to the dead people
> > souls when they die and return to God, do they become completely
> > unconscious or do they take with them a sort of consciousness that
> > mixes up with the cosmic energies of the universe, and therefore God
> > becomes conscious but unwilling to take part and change the natural
> > laws?
>
> > On Mar 4, 9:59 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious Nature
> > > which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and
> > > inaction.
>
> > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That doesn't help RP. Why this rather than a host of alternatives?
>
> > > > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and consciousness ,
> > > >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and without
> > > >> attributes.
>
> > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>
> > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation which
> > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have choice , but
> > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory of the
> > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by laws and
> > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
> > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>
> > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation which
> > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have choice , but
> > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory of the
> > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by laws and
> > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
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