skeptically, there is even less reason to accept a conclusion as
necessary other than by cultural context. There is more, my own
perspective when shifting between contexts can have a potential
biasing effect to compromise my judgment, lessening access to creative
problem solving capacity. They are imperfect yet useful tools,
sometimes a necessary compromise. So much for judgment? Not
necessarily, but it is sobering. Experiences are an interesting thing,
they can drive us to seek answers and some people even write about
them. In my seeking I've found that it is necessary to find my own
answers, as they are still unanswered. It may not seem so but it has
been a humbling experience, a reminder to listen, engage carefully (it
can be hard at times), and the position of facilitator is admirable.
My 3yr old son wanted to add a message to mine, he wants to tell you
about, "Rocket ships and all kinds of machines, and robots that have
guns. I want to tell them about the Earth, the stars, and my desk over
there with my machines in it and the gears move when I close it. The
oil is in my box for the gears."
One the after-life, "After their life they turn into something else.
They turn into a robot that has a gun."
On his brother's before-life, "He was [himself] when he wasn't an egg again."
So there we have it. :)
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:58 AM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some people believe in an after-life because some people claim to
> remember past births , experience is on their side , they say. You
> might as well believe in ghosts and ghouls because some people claim
> to have experienced them. So much for experience !
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Vam <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How do you know that, RP, when your dead ? Have you ever died before ?
>>
>> We all have a body and a mind. Based on its capabilities, or
>> incapabilities, what are we talking about ? Nature ? We hardly know
>> what, how much, how far, in what ways... it works, in all the 10 to
>> power 22 star worlds. What we know of it can hardly determine what we
>> do know about it, quite as the past can hardly define the future !
>>
>> Likewise, God. WTF are we talking about ? Now this could seem rude but
>> should make perfect sense in the context. As in what is this God ?
>> What constitutes it ? How does it relate to that other fog word "
>> Nature " ?
>>
>> I sincerely believe such threads are started on account of something
>> diseased within us !
>>
>> Healthy people should be talking of matters they know or have
>> experienced. One can then opine, extrapolate, theorise... and still be
>> understandable.
>>
>> On Mar 17, 11:26 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good
>>> Allan
>>> On Mar 17, 2012 5:28 PM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > As long as I am alive I am conscious of the world and myself , but when I
>>> > am dead I reach a state of permanent unconsciousness , a state of supreme
>>> > peace where nothing disturbs me , a sort of nirvana. that is the ultimate
>>> > state from which nobody returns.
>>>
>>> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 3:32:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ash wrote:
>>>
>>> >> This does make some sense to me RP so I hope my question doesn't sound
>>> >> critical. For me thinking in this way causes a massive amount of
>>> >> difficulty, as it sounds like immutable truths, so I have to translate
>>> >> away the language to get glints of my own thinking through. We could
>>> >> easily call my predicament not seeing the forest for the trees, and
>>> >> that would be a fitting if not limited statement. In my mind I prefer
>>> >> to start with the will representing laws of nature which are dynamic,
>>> >> and work more along an opportunistic heuristic. For me it is obvious
>>> >> that some people talk about an n-dimensional entity, but n is an
>>> >> aspect of scope in one's perspective. If n is potentially infinite,
>>> >> then the truths may have strength but are more optimizations than
>>> >> static ontology. I am wondering if there is some useful perspective
>>> >> that can be used in my situation, or perhaps it is a hopeless case.
>>> >> Perhaps you have something to help me?
>>>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:21 AM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Neil , there is no difference. The universe is not nature but a
>>> >> > manifestation of Nature or God. It is unconscious but not dead, as
>>> >> > that would have meant no life , further it has to be unconscious as
>>> >> > the conscious is always bound to certain limits and is dual.
>>>
>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> That's a little bit different - and I'm in agreement. Some scientists
>>> >> >> have suggested we could make a universe with life conditions in the
>>> >> >> laboratory - still leaving us with issues about beginnings. Science
>>> >> >> fiction wise one can imagine making such universes in order to travel
>>> >> >> in time in them to discover more on how we were made - by occupying
>>> >> >> earlier stages of them. I tend to think of the unconscious as what
>>> >> >> isn't in rational consciousness, but I know this is inadequate as much
>>> >> >> human consciousness in action is not known to the participants
>>> >> >> rationally.
>>>
>>> >> >> On Mar 5, 2:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious Nature
>>> >> >>> which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and
>>> >> >>> inaction.
>>>
>>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > That doesn't help RP. Why this rather than a host of alternatives?
>>>
>>> >> >>> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and
>>> >> consciousness ,
>>> >> >>> >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and without
>>> >> >>> >> attributes.
>>>
>>> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation
>>> >> which
>>> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have
>>> >> choice , but
>>> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory
>>> >> of the
>>> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound
>>> >> by laws and
>>> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
>>> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation
>>> >> which
>>> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have
>>> >> choice , but
>>> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory
>>> >> of the
>>> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound
>>> >> by laws and
>>> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
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