not ice hockey Rigsy field hockey ( no padding ) totally different sport.. Home economics and shop should be required for both genders
Allan
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:46 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
Girl's ice hockey is hot- so are several other intense sports. Sports
may help tame the teenage beast. Gym and physical fitness should be
required of all students. Outdoor skills can be acquired in Scouts or
camp. Home economics and shop should be required somewhere in the
system. Few seem able to bathe or cook on their own. Unfortunately
life skills- like budgets- are neglected.
Some sports are degrading education but how do you solve that? Sports
is just one of several challenges to taking education seriously. Then
you have to luck out re opportunity in the market place to earn a
living vs a pipe dream of fame and fortune.
On Apr 17, 3:03 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the internet is a great place for education.. and i think all
> basic education should be free especially the "3 R's" "Reading, Riting an
> Rithmatic" (Sorry could resist) There is a lot of information out there and
> it might be beneficial to have a location (I have not looked)
> for curriculum for basic education and also based on interest one designed
> to bring out natural talent... IMO one of the greatest downfalls of
> american education is its emphasis on competitive sports at taxpayer
> expense.. Sports should have nothing to do with education.. and takes away
> from learning, creating a two class society.. there is nothing wrong with
> sports but it can be done out side of school.. the taxpayer should not
> have to support the promotion of major league sports like football and
> basketball.
>
> Mathematics and the sciences should be supported to the same extreme sports
> are today. "lol" maybe the would be a much higher form of couch potato..
> I see basketball being played out side in public play ground to
> a great extent. Over here in the Netherlands I see american style football
> (not soccer) being played by people who have as a club bought their own
> gear.. (not taxpayer supported ) and neither is football (soccer) taxpayer
> supported it is all privately funded.. It seems all of the kids (boys and
> girls) know how to play football or some other sport.. I wonder how the
> american high school girls would stand up against field hockey scares the
> hell out of me when I watch it on TV.. The real question is why do
> taxpayers have to pay for competitive sports instead of education?
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:06 AM, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 4/16/12, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We already teach History, Science, Maths, Social Studies(civics) and
> > > current events. What is severely lacking is taking ALL of these base
> > > courses and applying them to real world applications. Schools used to
> > teach
> > > something called Home Economics when I was a kid. World Economics and
> > > Business Basics should be taught in grammer school. We've dumbed down
> > > school and are churning out future Government Dole Applicants. We should
> > be
> > > teaching them how to earn a living not take it for granted. We need more
> > > competition and classes that actually challange our kids to attain
> > > excellence. Instead school seems more social then competitive these days.
> > > It's a crying shame and it's why the U.S. education system is in such
> > > decline.
>
> > I am not as experienced as others here in education but I have the
> > impression that the failings we see in education are echoes of society
> > not the other way around. The gov't dole requires kids attend (or
> > else), it is an overworked and underfunded system that keeps kids off
> > the streets and out of the labor market decreasing prison populations
> > and fueling multiple economies. If we look at a cultural cross-section
> > going from inner-city, urban, suburban, rural with varying
> > socio-economic conditions, quality of life, and on to exposure and
> > familiarity with social resources I would say competition is quite
> > present across the board. What we have is a society composed of
> > psychologically maladapted humans frantically scrambling about mostly
> > aimlessly in a post traumatic stupor caused by spending a lifetime in
> > environments that evolved in every way but those that matter most to
> > human beings. One could consider it highly successful in that regard.
> > But that's an opinion (I think), one that doesn't exactly reach
> > solutions but can contribute some emphasis.
>
> > > I missed mentioning sports but this is also very important. Competitive
> > > sports is a metaphor for life. "Winning isn't everything; it's the only
> > > thing."
>
> > I am skeptical of the character traits required to defeat opponents,
> > as in war "all is fair".. but I agree on learning to face challenge
> > with an attitude of expectation and consider sports on the
> > mid-spectrum of character building skills. Success can go too far in
> > both directions, whether hopping on the highs of success leaving a
> > wake of failures or becoming despotic and building nepotistic
> > oligopolies in life- both are negative parasitic behaviors easily
> > justified and blindingly so. You are on the money though regarding
> > attitude I think, but it would take a lot of hard social
> > reconstruction- otherwise it just sounds like dog eat dog, and that is
> > what we have now (albeit a more pacified version). Damn I'm longwinded
> > tonight: I like the 'Ideal', but I've rarely run into anyone with that
> > attitude who can take serious questions into account.
>
> > We should still have sports either way for the reasons you put
> > forward. :) I'm a little bit of Semper Fi plus a huge bit of Semper
> > Vigilance.
>
> > > dj
>
> ...> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Absolutely...
>
> > >> On Apr 17, 3:06 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > I think that critical thinking, negotiation/argumentation,
> > >> > organization, and information research would be good classes.
>
> > >> > On Apr 16, 3:03 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > Science... inclusive of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry n Biology.
>
> > >> > > On Apr 17, 12:01 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > " ... what to teach the younger generation..."
>
> > >> > > > History, in truth. Science. Literature.
> > >> > > > Art. Sports.
> > >> > > > Current Political and Socio-Economic Issues.
> > >> > > > & Computers... www.
>
> > >> > > > On Apr 16, 9:42 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > Umm.. I dont know if Aezen is now a part of the group or not but
> > >> ill still
> > >> > > > > reply to him... even we in our country face a similar problem,
> > of
> > >> this
> > >> > > > > robotic teaching... senseless rote learning. But i am really
> > >> dissappointed
> > >> > > > > with our syllabus change our school board did.. i think in
> > trying
> > >> to make
> > >> > > > > stuff easier.. they are giving the people trash..i mean it.. i
> > can
> > >> > > > > confidently say.. I did not learn anything in school .. it was
> > >> only after
> > >> > > > > going to college that i began to think about stuff.. and it came
> > >> like a
> > >> > > > > bullet train.. and i was thinking.. what crap were they feeding
> > me
> > >> in
> > >> > > > > school. The thing is.. not making the curriculum easy.. but
> > giving
> > >> time to
> > >> > > > > the essential things...I cant think of alternative ways...I
> > think
> > >> it'll
> > >> > > > > always be controversial ..what to teach the younger
> > generation.. I
> > >> think..
> > >> > > > > what worked for me in college was that i got a lot of my own
> > >> > > > > time..
>
> > >> > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:09 PM, pol.science kid <
> > >> r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > Hey the link worked for me...
>
> > >> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > >> I'm not sure aezen is functional Molly.
>
> > >> > > > > >> On Apr 16, 12:50 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >> > This link is not functional.
>
> > >> > > > > >> > On Apr 15, 8:55 am, Æzen <ae...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > >> > > You may be interested in reading the article from which I
> > >> have taken
> > >> > > > > >> the
> > >> > > > > >> > > following excerpt:
>
> > >> > > > > >> > > "[...] The truly educated become conscious. They become
> > >> self-aware.
> > >> > > > > >> They do
> > >> > > > > >> > > not lie to themselves. They do not pretend that fraud is
> > >> moral or that
> > >> > > > > >> > > corporate greed is good. They do not claim that the
> > demands
> > >> of the
> > >> > > > > >> > > marketplace can morally justify the hunger of children or
> > >> denial of
> > >> > > > > >> medical
> > >> > > > > >> > > care to the sick. They do not throw 6 million families
> > from
> > >> their
> > >> > > > > >> homes as
> > >> > > > > >> > > the cost of doing business. Thought is a dialogue with
> > >> one's inner
> > >> > > > > >> self.
> > >> > > > > >> > > Those who think ask questions, questions those in
> > authority
> > >> do not
> > >> > > > > >> want
> > >> > > > > >> > > asked. They remember who we are, where we come from and
> > >> where we
> > >> > > > > >> should go.
> > >> > > > > >> > > They remain eternally skeptical and distrustful of power.
> > >> And they
> > >> > > > > >> know
> > >> > > > > >> > > that this moral independence is the only protection from
> > >> the radical
> > >> > > > > >> evil
> > >> > > > > >> > > that results from collective unconsciousness. The
> > capacity
> > >> to think
> > >> > > > > >> is the
> > >> > > > > >> > > only bulwark against any centralized authority that seeks
> > >> to impose
> > >> > > > > >> > > mindless obedience. There is a huge difference, as
> > Socrates
> > >> > > > > >> understood,
> > >> > > > > >> > > between teaching people what to think and teaching them
> > how
> > >> to think.
> > >> > > > > >> Those
> > >> > > > > >> > > who are endowed with a moral conscience refuse to commit
> > >> crimes, even
> > >> > > > > >> those
> > >> > > > > >> > > sanctioned by the corporate state, because they do not in
> > >> the end
> > >> > > > > >> want to
> > >> > > > > >> > > live with criminals—themselves.
>
> > >> > > > > >> > > Advertisement
> > >> > > > > >> > > "It is better to be at odds with the whole world than,
> > >> being one, to
> > >> > > > > >> be at
> > >> > > > > >> > > odds with myself," Socrates said. [...]"
>
> > >>www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_the_united_states_is_destroying_her_.
> > ..
>
> > >> > > > > >> > > On Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:43:55 UTC+1, pol.science
> > kid
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > >> > > > Recently, i was part of some filed work in a village
> > ...
> > >> we were
> > >> > > > > >> > > > looking into primary education there.... well.. while
> > >> doing the
> > >> > > > > >> > > > report.. i thought i couldnt
>
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