me you are both talking about a qualitative/individual aspect to
education. This is an important focus, I think all else follows from
the challenges to success to the contributions to society- every last
ounce of potential is in the individual. All else is logistics of
scale, systematization, and mechanization.
On 4/14/12, Vam <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good. But my response has nothing to do eastern or western anything.
>
> It's me. I regard any education as nothing if not leading to the
> evolution of something within me which gives a me perspective to world
> and life, a values system I can touch to know what the thing or matter
> before me means, to me.
>
> That should leave all the bubbles with you. And the yeast...
>
> On Apr 14, 8:49 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It looks you took Ash's mixing pot image too literal, Vam. You don't bring
>> order into a mixing pot by sequencing bubble terms - add some yeast if you
>> want to create bubbles and get your new order!
>>
>> If wisdom is what you wish to attain, you will not be able to achieve your
>> goal without having taken good care of your critical eye, for it is the
>> root that prevents you from being blinded.
>>
>> Education does not deliver knowledge or facts - Google or my newspaper
>> does
>> that. In a wider sense they also educate me, but more in the sense of I am
>> using their services with the intention to get access to information and
>> not in the sense that I wish to get formed in their image.
>>
>> I see a big difference in eastern and western understanding of what
>> education means.
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>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Education, leading to some wisdom in which our critical view may take
>> > root, takes time... yes, Knowledge >>> Attitude >>> Application >>>
>> > Skills involves a process of incubation, and Time.
>>
>> > Now, the time required for specific knowledge-to-skill acquisition
>> > process to complete differs with different people, for a variety of
>> > reasons and factors involved.
>>
>> > So, the society - education industry - only promises to deliver the
>> > knowledge, leaving our any committment to orienting the student's
>> > attitude, willing to apply and learn from it, and its maturation into
>> > an integrated perspective and life skills.
>>
>> > The education just delivers the knowledge, the " facts," to meet a
>> > schedule. What a stated " fact " means, in association with others
>> > stated and unstated, is upto the student to discover.
>>
>> > It may happen tommorow, take a lifetime, or may never emerge !
>>
>> > On Apr 14, 3:01 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I think education is a mixing pot. Remove the social factors and I
>> > > think US public education is good, here in the states we believe in
>> > > solving social problems by expanding the prison system. o.0 The
>> > > solutions I keep hearing from people in the past year are bizarre,
>> > > vigilante militia with public executions sort of stuff. It makes me
>> > > wonder if it's a meme I'm missing or something. Anyway.. back to
>> > > topic.
>>
>> > > Who has the attitude that it is a waste of time: kids, parents,
>> > > teachers? I imagine modernizing a largely rural or isolated population
>> > > would have some resistance, I'd say give it a few generations to get
>> > > going and put a lot of effort in recycling their traditional community
>> > > resources. If it is a boilerplate political maneuver there is still
>> > > social gain but I would worry about increasing resentment and culture
>> > > clash. The roots of education predate and transcend institutional
>> > > bureaucracy and the primary factors revolve around family and
>> > > community, a progressive surge could propel innovative strategies but
>> > > I think it also could decimate a culture or weaken it's ability to
>> > > adapt and outpace growing pains/challenges.
>>
>> > > This is an interesting topic pol, more observations please.
>>
>> > > On 4/12/12, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Recently, i was part of some filed work in a village ... we were
>> > > > looking into primary education there.... well.. while doing the
>> > > > report.. i thought i couldnt really understand education.. clearly
>> > > > what works for the city kids wouldnt work for those in the rural
>> > > > side..most of them do think theyre wasting their time...teachers
>> > > > hate
>> > > > the kids kids hate the teachers..everyone is bitching... the
>> > > > situation
>> > > > is pretty bad.. those who can do get out.. actually primary
>> > > > education
>> > > > in my country is pretty beat up... now in know most of you are from
>> > > > the 'West'.. Sounds weird when i say it like that.. we're frequently
>> > > > told that primary education in the west is quite o.k. .... in fact
>> > > > good.. What do you guys think?.. Also... how do you define
>> > > > education..i almost hate the term by now.. get to hear it so much
>> > > > with
>> > > > people having no idea of what they mean.... what do you think..?
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