Re: Mind's Eye Some Education

I was thinking of hitting the Netherland coffee shops before they are
forbidden to non-citizens...or could you lend out your membership
card? :-)//Seriously, I will see how it goes tomorrow with an old
friend. He would be great fun to travel with IF this were "the best of
all possible worlds" but what do I read and hear everyday? Riots,
suicide bombers, pirates, sinking or stinking cruise ships, no smoking
rules, bed-bugs, etc.

On Apr 24, 1:17 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malta   well it is an extremely dedicate tourist destination,, and
> extremely safe  it is my favorite destination..  all though there are
> many..  Don't put it off or you will never get there,,  Rigsy get
> your passport and book your flight
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Don't tempt me! :-) //I was thinking yesterday that there are likely
> > many Europeans that became permanent in the Middle East due to the
> > Crusades and just dissolved into the population over the centuries-
> > maybe those left behind after the defeats or those who were kidnapped
> > as slaves by the Muslims.//Anyway, the irony of middle class security
> > is that it is also a complicated trap.
>
> > On Apr 22, 1:30 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Rigsy   Pack up your bag and head off to Malta for a couple of months or
> > > so,,  so good old fashion sight seeing.. they have an interesting history
> > > even more interesting in person..
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > The Maltese Cross is associated with the Knights of St. John, Allan-
> > > > also Hospitaliers. Yes, the eight points denote virtues. The Knights
> > > > Templar are associated with the island of Cyprus and their cross is
> > > > different. Not sure about the Teutonic Knights in current terms nor
> > > > the Knights of Columbus for that matter. It's a complicated subject
> > > > and I remember what a struggle it was to read Eco's "Foucault's
> > > > Pendulum" when it came out and may have given up and hauled it back to
> > > > the library- anyway, he claims his theory was a spoof.
>
> > > > On Apr 20, 8:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > No it was not a clever pun  just my poor spelling    but it was the
> > best
> > > > i
> > > > > could do to get the idea across;;   now the Knights Templar  seems
> > to me
> > > > > was a medieval group  back from the crusades ..  actually they (the
> > > > > original still exist) ended up in Malta and it is something that you
> > can
> > > > > not join  but have to be asked..   Money helps  but it is in what you
> > > > have
> > > > > to offer as it in reality is a huge charity originally it came from
> > the
> > > > > original knights templar    and it is strikingly an honorary thing
> > and
> > > > you
> > > > > better be able to lay out the big bucks and be willing not to get
> > > > credit..
> > > > > and there is also the code  you must follow in your daily life..  the
> > > > > points of the Maltese cross..  interesting organization.. (yes i do
> > know
> > > > > some people who are members but i do not know them personally (the
> > royal
> > > > > family of the Netherlands are members))
> > > > > Don't be fooled by the 'want to be.'
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > And here I thought you had made a very clever pun! :-) I do
> > remember
> > > > > > you explained your spelling- but it has not been a problem for
> > me.//I
> > > > > > can't understand the Knights Templar becoming a template for
> > Breivik
> > > > > > except for the Crusades- I suppose it depends on how you have read
> > > > > > their history- great wealth betrayed by the French king and
> > Pope.//I
> > > > > > have seen a good deal of hypocrisy in the Liberals between their
> > > > > > personal and public positions so I am wary, perhaps. I think that
> > > > > > humans are still nomadic- chasing moolah instead of the moo's of
> > their
> > > > > > herds- but this is intensified by wars, economic imbalances and
> > > > > > distribution of power/freedom.
>
> > > > > > On Apr 19, 9:03 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > You are right Rigsy  it is medieval  just could not find it in
> > the
> > > > spell
> > > > > > > checker  (not very bright huh) as for Breivik I think he is
> > creating
> > > > > > > a fantasy..  though I know of that ate very much against the
> > > > > > > muslim influnce   they are not secret organizations,  but here
> > in the
> > > > > > > Netherlands a political party..  and they are very vocal.. and
> > the
> > > > > > feelings
> > > > > > > are quite wide spread..
>
> > > > > > > I can not help but think that Breivik  is trying to be another
> > Hitler
> > > > > > > instead of the Jews being the focal point it is Muslims he is
> > trying
> > > > to
> > > > > > > work up the anti - what ever sentiment to stir up trouble and get
> > > > people
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > follow him blindly..   but I do not think he as as bright  as he
> > see
> > > > > > > himself as.
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > It was laws that we really owe to Babylon and the eastern trade
> > > > routes
> > > > > > > > plus the East was able to save knowledge resources during the
> > Dark
> > > > > > > > Ages after the barbarian invasions. Their conquest was swift
> > and
> > > > > > > > brutal of the West though defeated and pushed back and it's
> > > > pay-back
> > > > > > > > for that and the Crusades. BenLadin=the new Saladin?
>
> > > > > > > > You say mid-evil and I say Medieval...? The present
> > international
> > > > > > > > banking system is beholden to the Knights Templar system. I
> > heard
> > > > KT
> > > > > > > > mentioned re Anders Breivik just yesterday but presume it has
> > to do
> > > > > > > > with his anti-Islam "mission".
>
> > > > > > > > Our alphabet also evolved from the East- math and language
> > being a
> > > > > > > > necessity of trade.
>
> > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 1:50 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I watched a program  on the mid evil mind and how they view
> > > > things..
> > > > > >  one
> > > > > > > > > of the things that was looked at education and part of it
> > > > involved
> > > > > > islam
> > > > > > > > ,,
> > > > > > > > >  I always knew that number system was arabic in origin what i
> > > > found
> > > > > > > > > interesting is their interest in the ancient philosophers and
> > > > > > mathematics
> > > > > > > > > as well as other sciences,, but they did not give much
> > detail on
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > end..
>
> > > > > > > > > My question is what happened to islam that it stopped its
> > > > interest
> > > > > > > > science
> > > > > > > > > and mathematics is one of the truly pure sciences it seems
> > all
> > > > that
> > > > > > islam
> > > > > > > > > It seems there is no interest in harmony and co-existence is
> > > > > > interested
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > is murder and forcing people to live their set of rules which
> > > > > > > > > is contrary to western law.
> > > > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The education system has become a means of sorting out the
> > > > > > population
> > > > > > > > > > and not necessarily a government scam anymore than one that
> > > > eases
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > selections of politics, business, society and so on. It was
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > > tidier in the Middle Ages with an overall system of belief
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > practice.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 10:36 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm struck that universal education has failed us.  I'd
> > go
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > deschooling and have education after 14 voluntary and
> > much
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > related to practice (not necessarily work).  Current
> > > > university
> > > > > > > > > > > programmes should be available on television and
> > available
> > > > free
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > Internet supervision from university hubs where academics
> > > > work
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > community and social and sports events are also civic
> > rather
> > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > separated as now.  Education is currently a government
> > scam
> > > > and
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > export scam.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 3:23 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I oscillate between visionary and lunatic fringe. If
> > one
> > > > liners
> > > > > > > > paid
> > > > > > > > > > > > the bills I'd be a millionaire, the exercise comes in
> > the
> > > > > > > > unpacking so
> > > > > > > > > > > > a wee bit of sarcasm may be in order. Thanks Vam  ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/15/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Facebook has "Like", Twitter would allow "Retweet",
> > and I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > re-pin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on Pinterest ...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's say, I am doing all three now !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 8:57 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is helpful to have an idea of process and
> > structure
> > > > and
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> me you are both talking about a
> > qualitative/individual
> > > > > > aspect to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> education. This is an important focus, I think all
> > else
> > > > > > follows
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> the challenges to success to the contributions to
> > > > society-
> > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> ounce of potential is in the individual. All else is
> > > > > > logistics
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> scale, systematization, and mechanization.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 4/14/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Good. But my response has nothing to do eastern or
> > > > western
> > > > > > > > > > anything.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > It's me. I regard any education as nothing if not
> > > > leading
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > evolution of something within me which gives a me
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > and life, a values system I can touch to know
> > what the
> > > > > > thing
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > matter
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > before me means, to me.
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