Re: Mind's Eye Some Education

Everyone .. thinks they are wasting their time.. kids , parents, teachers. Well...it actually kind of works in a loop, the government schools in rural places lack infrastructure and man power, the teaching isnt that well, its not that the teachers arent qualified.. its just i didnt see that zeal.. i am sure there are exceptions abound in lots of places... ours was a very rapid appraisal... see most kids know they have to find a job quickly..being from not so affluent family.. the family cant invest so many resources for a child to study further when there are so many mouths to feed.. girls drop out earlier than boys.. they have to help around with house work ..take care of younger siblings.. the boys study as far as they can to find a suitable job.. and they know that the govt. school aint gonna help em get anywhere great. See though everyone is convinced that a child ought to go to school.. the parents most of them illetrate have an idea that if their kids go to school somehow they will have a better life than they had.. but there is no idea of education and knowledge , no traditional concept, it has been completely eroded, by the cities... But ill tell you one thing.. the spirit for learning that i didn't find in a day school, we went one night to attend a night school in a nearby village,there the atmosphere was completely different. There was a small solar lamp , and a large group of kids aged between 3 to 13.. were huddled around it, the light barely reached the end corners. The teacher was a middle aged man, who had apparently shifted many jobs, even left one with quite a good pay to teach the kids in the night school. These kids, attended the night school because they had to work the whole day, assist the parent in house work, taking care of cattle, working in the fields and other stuff. After a whole days work, they came there to study. But not one face was tired, the kids were more alert and smarter than the kids we found in the govt.school. Their teacher with his limited resources.. no classroom ,,we were sitting on a tattered carpet under the night sky, gave everything he could to these kids.There you could say , was a place of learning. Besides the curriculum , he imparted them traditional knowledge regarding the agriculture, cattle, basic home made medications, stuff that one can use in daily life.. easy science. Important measurements and conversions.It was brilliant. And it inspired us a lot.. thats the learning we want.. there a lot of Ngos and grass root level organisations that count on the same traditional education you talk about whilst giving them formal education they need , but it would be better if mainstream  approach to rural education adapted a bit .. 

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:31 AM, James Lynch <ashkashal@gmail.com> wrote:
I think education is a mixing pot. Remove the social factors and I
think US public education is good, here in the states we believe in
solving social problems by expanding the prison system. o.0 The
solutions I keep hearing from people in the past year are bizarre,
vigilante militia with public executions sort of stuff. It makes me
wonder if it's a meme I'm missing or something. Anyway.. back to
topic.

Who has the attitude that it is a waste of time: kids, parents,
teachers? I imagine modernizing a largely rural or isolated population
would have some resistance, I'd say give it a few generations to get
going and put a lot of effort in recycling their traditional community
resources. If it is a boilerplate political maneuver there is still
social gain but I would worry about increasing resentment and culture
clash. The roots of education predate and transcend institutional
bureaucracy and the primary factors revolve around family and
community, a progressive surge could propel innovative strategies but
I think it also could decimate a culture or weaken it's ability to
adapt and outpace growing pains/challenges.

This is an interesting topic pol, more observations please.

On 4/12/12, pol.science kid <r.freebird@gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently, i was part of some filed work in a village ... we were
> looking into primary education there.... well.. while doing the
> report.. i thought i couldnt really understand education.. clearly
> what works for the city kids wouldnt work for those in the rural
> side..most of them do think theyre wasting their time...teachers hate
> the kids kids hate the teachers..everyone is bitching... the situation
> is pretty bad.. those who can do get out.. actually primary education
> in my country is pretty beat up... now in know most of you are from
> the 'West'.. Sounds weird when i say it like that.. we're frequently
> told that primary education in the west is quite o.k. .... in fact
> good.. What do you guys think?.. Also... how do you define
> education..i almost hate the term by now.. get to hear it so much with
> people having no idea of what they mean.... what do you think..?



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