Re: Mind's Eye Re: Are You A Human Being ?

Let me push through one "ridiculous" instance of what it is to be human, of his capacity to know ...

 Is there life after death ? " What will happen to me after death ?"

These questions seem irrelevant while one is alive and doing well for oneself, in a position to power our way through life and the world before us. But then, who is to restrain us from being whimsical or cruel, unjust and uncaring ? It must be ourselves, for the law allows much transgression in ethics and rarely concerns itself with morals. And, scouring through history or looking about us for how resourceful people behave, it is easy to conclude that men are poor, almost disabled, at doing the job of keeping themselves under their own leash.

On the other hand, if it were established that there is life after death, that we shall be put to account for our actions in life, the knowledge would have a profound bearing on how we conduct ourselves here and now.

I believe most humans do not want to believe that this could be a fact and, indeed, fervently hope they would NOT have to live with the "moral" consequences of their intent and deeds on their conscience even after they've breathed their last !

But we've heard of cries of truth being "outlandish" before !

On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:56:25 PM UTC+5:30, Allan Heretic wrote:

we (docs and me) monitor it regularly,,  major problem  is a language one  ,,   we are not sure just what to do.. i am sure it will all work out..  I have been dealing with it for years Rigsy..  not worried besides it is fun to drive doc nuts..

Allan 

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Just take those meds religiously. Have you tried doing things with
your left hand if you are right-handed? Even like brushing your teeth
or unlocking a door, etc.- it builds new synapses. You are in good
company- Alexander and Caesar had epilipsy- maybe you've lost nothing!

On Aug 13, 12:00 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very interesting,, I do know that because of my epilepsy that part of my
> brain is weak and malfunctions. neural activity is
> very fascinating especially when it effects you in daily life..  there is
> damage from the epileptic activity.
>
> worlds change believe me.. but i wonder what I have lost.
> Allan
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> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:37 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I share your fears, which is why suggest a limbo competition in which
> > you need to lower the bar.
>
> > So here is my video link for you as a sign of understanding you:
>

> >http://www.ted.com/talks/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civi...
>
> > Am I close?

>
> > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I believe, people who put in their 2 cents on this thread were already
> > > daunted by my rules... no regurgitating other people's thoughts.
>
> > > What's more basic than the topic : Are you a human being ? In what way,
> > over
> > > and above what animals do ? And, all the brilliant minds here are
> > > struggling...
>
> > > I am afraid, raising the bar into non-dual will simply crash on them !
> > So...
>
> > > Mind Eyers !  Let me ask yet again...
>
> > > Are you a human being, over and above the animal ways ?
>
> > > What do you think is so difficult about the topic ?
>
> > > On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:29:47 PM UTC+5:30, Molly wrote:
>
> > >> Moving in spirit, and outside the realm of time, is non dual, and
> > >> therefore, also outside the realm of cause and effect. I think when we
> > are
> > >> moving in spirit, and centered in a non dual view, we have integrated
> > >> entirely.  It does not mean time and cause and effect do not exist.  It
> > >> means that our viewpoint transcends, and therefore our external and
> > internal
> > >> experience of life transcends also.  I love this Joseph Campbell quote:
> > >> "We can't rid the world of sorrow, but we can choose to live in joy ...
> > The
> > >> Bodhisattva participates joyfully in the sorrows of the world."  Maybe,
> > >> being human is the journey there (the view we bring into the world) and
> > back
> > >> again (after being completely submersed in the world).  Siddhartha.
>
> > >> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:32:15 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> > >>> I think the nature of man as we know it is really not going to change
> > >>> much, there will be time of better behavior and times of less desirable
> > >>> behavior. Other than for the development of the soul into a greater
> > being in
> > >>> closer connection with the Entirety.
> > >>> Every soul has complete free choice in its development and progression.
>
> > >>> It is the relationship with the Entirety that is important..  some
> > people
> > >>> seek this connection through wealth and greed, others through war and
> > >>> destruction..  What ever path that is chosen it will have effects on
> > the
> > >>> soul.. and none of them actually effect the immortality of its
> > existence.
> > >>> The soul is already eternal whether people believe it or not,  even
> > that
> > >>> does not matter.
>
> > >>> Darma tells us that life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
> > Karma
> > >>> tells us there are effect to be expected from our actions.. karma does
> > not
> > >>> tell us when though. This can be a problem  because of my
> > understanding in
> > >>> the spiritual realm there is no time.
> > >>> Allan
>
> > >>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Vam <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> If mere being raised by human beings, and being a part of their
> > family,
> > >>>> is the criterion... I'm afraid, even dogs and cats can lay a claim to
> > being
> > >>>> human.
>
> > >>>> #BrainIsNotTheMind
> > >>>> I've never held in hand or dived into the brain 2 connect neurones, or
> > >>>> throttle endocrine glands, 2 deal with matters in the mind !
>
> > >>>> And, to those who continue to primacy to the animal in man ... I've
> > not
> > >>>> known of any animal devising 84 different, well thought out positions
> > to
> > >>>> copulate, or prepare thousands of distinct food preparations and still
> > >>>> distinguish their flavours enough to write volumes on each !
>
> > >>>> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:09:24 AM UTC+5:30, AmandaRheen wrote:
>
> > >>>>> I guess the only thing that really allows me to know that I am a
> > human
> > >>>>> being is that I was born into and grew up within a family of
> > creatures who
> > >>>>> identified themselves and me as human beings.  Then as reinforcement
> > of this
> > >>>>> idea I attended large communal gatherings at regular intervals with
> > others
> > >>>>> who generally looked and acted the same as myself.  Occassionally the
> > >>>>> creatures in charge would take great pains to demand that we act
> > like human
> > >>>>> beings, not like animals hehe.  Mostly from these experiences I have
> > learned
> > >>>>> to identify myself as 'human being'.
> > >>>>> As far as considering myself  'apart' from other animals I'm not
> > sure I
> > >>>>> really attended that class. Perhaps I played hooky that day and was
> > off
> > >>>>> riding my horse through the bush with our two dogs.  Granted some of
> > the
> > >>>>> human being creatures I knew would tell me we were apart from other
> > >>>>> creatures but my own human being family seemed less concerned about
> > this
> > >>>>> distinction and more concerned with showing other creatures great
> > care and
> > >>>>> respect in return for the loyalty and co-operation they gave in their
> > >>>>> interaction with us.  Sure we occasionally ate one of them but
> > animals have
> > >>>>> their own ways of levelling the field when they really feel like it.
> >  I
> > >>>>> concede though none of them ever actually ate me.
>
> > >>>> --
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> > >>> --
> > >>>  (
> > >>>   )
> > >>> |_D Allan
>
> > >>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > > --
>
> > --
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> --
>  (
>   )
> |_D Allan
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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

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