Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Truth and Nothing But...

I read his novels- 7 or 8 of them- but did agree with an essay re
Middle East so I will "fill in" with his memoir and some essays- the
latter seems to be getting the highest praise. I envied his era as the
50's were a terrible bore to grow up in.

On Aug 1, 8:25 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes Rigsy Gore Vidal passing leaves a great vacancy open ,,  where else
> will we get great lines like...
> "The United States of Amnesia"
> Allan
> On Aug 1, 2012 1:50 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Sport is a tamer form of war, isn't it? Wrong Bond for me- but one
> > wonders how Sean would have handled that stunt. Am not keeping track
> > of the Olympic Sinophobia- really, the editor-zingers are pathetic
> > delivering their soundbites.
>
> > Ah, sadness. Gore Vidal has died- age 86. Another approach to history
> > is silenced.
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> > Haven't read 50 Shades. Should I? :-)
>
> > Must get to a cuke today- subcs. active. Will make gazpacho and a cold
> > cuke-yogurt to bide the heat.
>
> > Have my own take on the Opium Wars and the put down of the Boxer
> > Rebellion- pure opportunist trade there. Merchants cannot stand
> > indifference. Plus the decline of the Dutch. Oh well...
>
> > On Jul 31, 9:33 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > There is a point at which one has to accept that celebrating history
> > > as truth would be extremely difficult in public events like the
> > > Olympics.  A re-enactment of, say, the joint action of British,
> > > French, German, American, Russian and Japanese navies putting down the
> > > Boxer revolution in China (1902 ish) is probably something to leave
> > > behind at such moments.  The Queen leaping out of a plane and arriving
> > > by parachute with James Bond is at least obvious fantasy.  At least we
> > > were spared, as in Fifty Shades of Grey mode, the jump as some form of
> > > bondage sex.  Sport is rather tiresome - how long before the prone
> > > full-bore is advertised in the obvious innuendo?
>
> > > On Jul 31, 1:19 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > True. The truth can hurt- maybe that's why we avoid it- or try to. And
> > > > it takes time/maturity/experience to weigh and judge facts. The best I
> > > > can do is get back to those imaginary scales I try to manage- weighing
> > > > the good against the bad- and hoping they will balance and bring me
> > > > some kind of acceptance.
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> > > > On Jul 28, 10:10 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Things might be in books, papers, media, or other people's minds.
> > > > > Yet, it is YOU who is central to everything, including facts you are
> > aware
> > > > > of.
> > > > > Facts are truths of the moment, as it is in your insight and
> > conviction.
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> > > > > Even whether a 'story' is complete, or not, is a matter of your
> > perception.
> > > > > Of course, it depends upon how much details you've gone on to acquire
> > > > > and place in your awareness, analysed it and obtained a consistent
> > insight
> > > > > with a critical eye.
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> > > > > The elephant in the room can be known for what it is.
> > > > > But it takes focus, the opposite of dissipation,
> > > > > and hell of a lot of going through.
>
> > > > > We've generally lost the motivation for going after facts
> > > > > and the art of going through !
>
> > > > > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:49:51 AM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote:
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> > > > > > Was thinking more about Vam's statement about facts. Well, who
> > > > > > presents the facts and how are they edited or censored? Many were
> > > > > > content to think of American Indians as Tonto(Lone Ranger) until
> > "Bury
> > > > > > My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown came out. When facts have a
> > > > > > political, religious or social purpose, you can bet you are not
> > > > > > getting the complete story. Same with families who whitewash family
> > > > > > history. No one who has read British history believes the Olympic
> > > > > > opening ceremony selections are the full story- that's
> > entertainment-
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