Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Truth and Nothing But...

Reads like a good read for Vam.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:59 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Days of Destruction,Days of Revolt" by Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco
> <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12993106-days-of-destruction-days-
> of-revolt>
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> On Aug 1, 8:25 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes Rigsy Gore Vidal passing leaves a great vacancy open ,, where else
>> will we get great lines like...
>> "The United States of Amnesia"
>> Allan
>> On Aug 1, 2012 1:50 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > Sport is a tamer form of war, isn't it? Wrong Bond for me- but one
>> > wonders how Sean would have handled that stunt. Am not keeping track
>> > of the Olympic Sinophobia- really, the editor-zingers are pathetic
>> > delivering their soundbites.
>>
>> > Ah, sadness. Gore Vidal has died- age 86. Another approach to history
>> > is silenced.
>>
>> > Haven't read 50 Shades. Should I? :-)
>>
>> > Must get to a cuke today- subcs. active. Will make gazpacho and a cold
>> > cuke-yogurt to bide the heat.
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>> > Have my own take on the Opium Wars and the put down of the Boxer
>> > Rebellion- pure opportunist trade there. Merchants cannot stand
>> > indifference. Plus the decline of the Dutch. Oh well...
>>
>> > On Jul 31, 9:33 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > There is a point at which one has to accept that celebrating history
>> > > as truth would be extremely difficult in public events like the
>> > > Olympics. A re-enactment of, say, the joint action of British,
>> > > French, German, American, Russian and Japanese navies putting down the
>> > > Boxer revolution in China (1902 ish) is probably something to leave
>> > > behind at such moments. The Queen leaping out of a plane and arriving
>> > > by parachute with James Bond is at least obvious fantasy. At least we
>> > > were spared, as in Fifty Shades of Grey mode, the jump as some form of
>> > > bondage sex. Sport is rather tiresome - how long before the prone
>> > > full-bore is advertised in the obvious innuendo?
>>
>> > > On Jul 31, 1:19 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > > > True. The truth can hurt- maybe that's why we avoid it- or try to. And
>> > > > it takes time/maturity/experience to weigh and judge facts. The best I
>> > > > can do is get back to those imaginary scales I try to manage- weighing
>> > > > the good against the bad- and hoping they will balance and bring me
>> > > > some kind of acceptance.
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>> > > > On Jul 28, 10:10 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > > > Things might be in books, papers, media, or other people's minds.
>> > > > > Yet, it is YOU who is central to everything, including facts you are
>> > aware
>> > > > > of.
>> > > > > Facts are truths of the moment, as it is in your insight and
>> > conviction.
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>> > > > > Even whether a 'story' is complete, or not, is a matter of your
>> > perception.
>> > > > > Of course, it depends upon how much details you've gone on to acquire
>> > > > > and place in your awareness, analysed it and obtained a consistent
>> > insight
>> > > > > with a critical eye.
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>> > > > > The elephant in the room can be known for what it is.
>> > > > > But it takes focus, the opposite of dissipation,
>> > > > > and hell of a lot of going through.
>>
>> > > > > We've generally lost the motivation for going after facts
>> > > > > and the art of going through !
>>
>> > > > > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:49:51 AM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote:
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>> > > > > > Was thinking more about Vam's statement about facts. Well, who
>> > > > > > presents the facts and how are they edited or censored? Many were
>> > > > > > content to think of American Indians as Tonto(Lone Ranger) until
>> > "Bury
>> > > > > > My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown came out. When facts have a
>> > > > > > political, religious or social purpose, you can bet you are not
>> > > > > > getting the complete story. Same with families who whitewash family
>> > > > > > history. No one who has read British history believes the Olympic
>> > > > > > opening ceremony selections are the full story- that's
>> > entertainment-
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