Re: Mind's Eye Re: Peer Networking

The 'official speak' of my postmodernism is 'Lakatosian paradigm in
decadence' - regulations are cheated. It's getting more difficult to
cheat in sport these days because of drug-testing, referees and the
video replay. Just as his was happening in sport, 'someone' decided
to let all the rules go to pot in finance. I had a very lovely friend
who cheated at Monopoly - the cheating being part of the fun of the
game with no damage done. My feelings are much like rigsy's - I just
think ethics require public scrutiny, ideology prevents this and we
could do the refereeing better. My guess is the problem is essentially
economics and business practices that are medieval and trapped in
animal genetics. Simples!

On 26 Sep, 07:44, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very up to date
> to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive keyword:
> sustainability).
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> And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the world at least
> twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if they had
> sprung off your mind. ;)
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> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere with your stick of
> > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects of our failures.
> > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly complex.
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> > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral. Which, in my
> > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ... spiritually evolved ...
> > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue.
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> > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I tried to share not
> > so long ago.
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> > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you are beating is us.
> > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If inebriation was in alcohol,
> > the bottles should dance !
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> > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote:
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> >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just not practised.
> >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations, berserk cultures,
> >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed humanism which is
> >> under stress due to science and technology today- the new darling.
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> >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting greeedy individuals
> >> > and corporations under control.
> >> > Allan
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> >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard Gardner
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> >> > > >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s...
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> >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the taxes and fees
> >> > > > they
> >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to give them that
> >> > > > power.
> >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget credit cards as
> >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's "Republic"- but
> >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize society- none of
> >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an impossible lack
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism.
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> >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don.  All money
> >> > > > > essentially
> >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks is debt.  Street-up
> >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points out.
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> >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that list, however.
> >> > > Stadiums
> >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure.
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> >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > > >http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851...
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> >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about! Decentralization is key. I
> >> > > > > > > believe
> >> > > this is
> >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil.
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> >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital technology.
> >> > > > > > > Twenty
> >> > > years ago,
> >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered a radical new
> >> > > technique called
> >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the city's 16 regions
> >> > > conduct general
> >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate priorities for the
> >> > > > > > > budget:
> >> > > school
> >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building. The assemblies
> >> > > > > > > create
> >> > > a ranked
> >> > > > > > > list of projects, and the government disperses funds
> >> > > > > > > accordingly.
> >> > > The money
> >> > > > > > > comes from the state, but the decision of what to fund comes
> >> > > > > > > from
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > street."
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> >> > |_D Allan
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> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> >> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
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