Re: Mind's Eye Re: Peer Networking

There are many home remedies that are tried and true except that who's
home these days?- and barbers (now doctors) stepped in to create a
profession. Perhaps this is another course we can squeeze into
education to combat the endless ads of the drug companies. I view
doctors/hospitals/drugs as a last resort.

On Sep 28, 9:31 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What medical advice, I thought we were talking about folk remedies or a
> poor mans medicine.
> Allan
>  On Sep 29, 2012 3:04 AM, "James" <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Being a sucker for punishment when my wisdom tooth was ground and picked
> > out I smoked and drank a large fountain drink, it only took me a week of
> > dry socket to start thinking creatively. I used one of those little brown
> > bottle Liquid Skin over-the-counter treatments, it may have contained clove
> > oil (that is what I wanted at the time but would've settled for anything),
> > put a good gob on a q-tip and smear it in there. The alcohol gave instant
> > relief to the inflamed bone and a protective coat, the healing went fine
> > from there, not sure how it would do on cavities. This is NOT medical
> > advice, YMMV. ;-)
>
> > On 9/28/2012 10:05 AM, Allan H wrote:
>
> >> well when I could not afford a dentist in the states it keeped the pain
> >> at bay.
> >> Allan
>
> >> On Sep 28, 2012 2:37 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:rigs...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> >>     Cloves might help with an ache but not with an extraction- it could
> >>     cause infection. Best bet is a rinse of warm salt water to spur
> >>     healing and keep food med. soft for a couple of weeks. Already moved
> >>     up to ravioli! :-)
>
> >>     On Sep 28, 4:20 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>      > Cloves make a great against pain Rigsy. and as your years have
> >>     taught you
> >>      > ..  this to will pass
> >>      > Allan
>
> >>      > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:14 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com
> >>     <mailto:rigs...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>      > > The basic motive is competition and profit so corners are cut or
> >>      > > falsified sometimes. Also, it is a game to sharp traders. And I
> >>     think
> >>      > > it goes further back than the Middle Ages- how about ancient
> >>      > > mythologies? The trickster deities were warnings- "buyer beware".
>
> >>      > > Somewhat related; "Money & Medicine"
> >>      > >http://video.pbs.org/video/**2280765671<http://video.pbs.org/video/2280765671>
>
> >>      > > Had a back molar pulled yesterday. My neighbor took me over,
> >> waited
> >>      > > and drove me home- he is a dear. Advice: if one MUST smoke, use a
> >>      > > cigarette holder away from the socket; follow advice about cold
> >>     packs
> >>      > > and pain meds; keep foods interesting like polenta with butter
> >> and
> >>      > > parmesan, carrot-ginger soup, scrambled eggs, etc., avoiding
> >>      > > extraction site and keep to a sane diet till healing is complete.
>
> >>      > > On Sep 27, 6:10 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>      > > > The 'official speak' of my postmodernism is 'Lakatosian
> >>     paradigm in
> >>      > > > decadence' - regulations are cheated.  It's getting more
> >>     difficult to
> >>      > > > cheat in sport these days because of drug-testing, referees
> >>     and the
> >>      > > > video replay.  Just as his was happening in sport, 'someone'
> >>     decided
> >>      > > > to let all the rules go to pot in finance.  I had a very
> >>     lovely friend
> >>      > > > who cheated at Monopoly - the cheating being part of the fun
> >>     of the
> >>      > > > game with no damage done.  My feelings are much like rigsy's
> >>     - I just
> >>      > > > think ethics require public scrutiny, ideology prevents this
> >>     and we
> >>      > > > could do the refereeing better. My guess is the problem is
> >>     essentially
> >>      > > > economics and business practices that are medieval and trapped
> >> in
> >>      > > > animal genetics.  Simples!
>
> >>      > > > On 26 Sep, 07:44, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >>      > > > > Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very
> >>     up to date
> >>      > > > > to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive
> >>     keyword:
> >>      > > > > sustainability).
>
> >>      > > > > And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the
> >>     world at least
> >>      > > > > twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if
> >>     they had
> >>      > > > > sprung off your mind. ;)
>
> >>      > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:atewari2...@gmail.com>**> wrote:
> >>      > > > > > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere
> >>     with your
> >>      > > stick of
> >>      > > > > > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects
> >>     of our
> >>      > > failures.
> >>      > > > > > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly
> >>     complex.
>
> >>      > > > > > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral.
> >>     Which, in my
> >>      > > > > > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ...
> >>     spiritually
> >>      > > evolved ...
> >>      > > > > > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue.
>
> >>      > > > > > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I
> >>     tried to
> >>      > > share not
> >>      > > > > > so long ago.
>
> >>      > > > > > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you
> >> are
> >>      > > beating is us.
> >>      > > > > > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If
> >>     inebriation was in
> >>      > > alcohol,
> >>      > > > > > the bottles should dance !
>
> >>      > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30,
> >>     rigsy03 wrote:
>
> >>      > > > > >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just
> >>     not practised.
> >>      > > > > >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations,
> >>     berserk cultures,
> >>      > > > > >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed
> >>     humanism which
> >>      > > is
> >>      > > > > >> under stress due to science and technology today- the
> >>     new darling.
>
> >>      > > > > >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>      > > > > >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting
> >>     greeedy
> >>      > > individuals
> >>      > > > > >> > and corporations under control.
> >>      > > > > >> > Allan
>
> >>      > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03
> >>     <rigs...@yahoo.com <mailto:rigs...@yahoo.com>>
> >>      > > wrote:
> >>      > > > > >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard
> >> Gardner
>
> >>      >http://opinionator.blogs.**nytimes.com/2012/09/23/**
> >> reinventing-ethics/?s.<http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s.>
> >> ..
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com
> >>     <mailto:rigs...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>      > > > > >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the
> >>     taxes and
> >>      > > fees
> >>      > > > > >> > > > they
> >>      > > > > >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to
> >>     give them that
> >>      > > > > >> > > > power.
> >>      > > > > >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget
> >>     credit
> >>      > > cards as
> >>      > > > > >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's
> >>      > > "Republic"- but
> >>      > > > > >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize
> >>     society- none
> >>      > > of
> >>      > > > > >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an
> >>     impossible
> >>      > > lack
> >>      > > > > >> > > > of
> >>      > > > > >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism.
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don.
> >>       All money
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > essentially
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks
> >>     is debt.
> >>      > >  Street-up
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points
> >> out.
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com
> >>     <mailto:rigs...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that
> >>     list,
> >>      > > however.
> >>      > > > > >> > > Stadiums
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure.
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson
> >>     <daj...@gmail.com <mailto:daj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >>      >http://professional.wsj.com/**article/**
> >> SB1000087239639044416580457800**851.<http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851.>
> >> ..
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about!
> >>     Decentralization is
> >>      > > key. I
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > believe
> >>      > > > > >> > > this is
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil.
>
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital
> >>     technology.
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > Twenty
> >>      > > > > >> > > years ago,
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered
> >>     a radical
> >>      > > new
> >>      > > > > >> > > technique called
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the
> >>     city's 16
> >>      > > regions
> >>      > > > > >> > > conduct general
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate
> >>     priorities for the
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > budget:
> >>      > > > > >> > > school
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building.
> >> The
> >>      > > assemblies
> >>      > > > > >> > > > > > > create
>
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